Jesus died at the age of 33,
a tragic death on the cross

Jesus faced persecution, many people sought to destroy him, and finally they succeeded and nailed him to the cross.

Jesus left behind an example, that people should only do what is right in the sight of GOD, even at the peril of death.

Click to know about,

  1. Main Teachings of Jesus

  2. Other Teachings of Jesus

  3. Law of GOD and His Commandments

  4. Hymn




GOD resurrected Jesus and Jesus is now in heaven





Dear Muslims,

The followings are my postings to a Quran discussion group,

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/quran-l
Kindly read them, they may help you understand Allah better.

From a servant of Allah,
Wu Siu Yan


Content

  1. [3 July 2002] July 4 -- will there be terrorist acts on that day ?
  2. [2 July 2002] QURAN said that Moses was also a prophet
  3. [30 June 2002] No Future for the Muslims if they just take Jesus as a prophet
  4. [29 June 2002] HOW I GOT MY KNOWLEDGE OF BIBLE AND QURAN
  5. [28 June 2002] QUICK AND EASY WAY TO UNDERSTAND CHRISTIANS
  6. [28 June 2002] LORD a deceiver ?
  7. [28 June 2002] Woman should shut up in church ?
  8. [28 June 2002] LORD a deceiver? is evil ?
  9. [27 June 2002] Those who have read the QURAN must read D&C
  10. [27 June 2002] Re : Enoch wrote his own obituary ? (Cf. with Moses)
  11. [27 June 2002] Enoch wrote his own obituary ? (Cf. with Moses)
  12. [27 June 2002] Palestinian Boys throwing stones
  13. [25 June 2002] Reply to KS
  14. [23 June 2002] MORE ON D&C AND QURAN
  15. [22 June 2002] LDS <==> Islam
  16. [14 June 2002] D&C <===> QURAN




July 4 -- will there be terrorist acts on that day ?

By
Wu Siu Yan
3 July 2002



To the Islamic friends,

An American intercepted a telephone conversation about terrorist acts on July 4. He reported to FBI, but FBI did not believe him.

I hope there will not be terrorist acts on that day, but what if there is ?

Sept-11 already makes the life of many Muslims difficult, and if terrorist acts happen on July 4, the life of Muslims would be more difficult still.

I am a Chinese, and from birth, I have to listen to my parents about ancestor worship, demon worship, etc. This is so because I was born a Chinese. For Muslims, it is the same, you are born into this religion.

I freed myself from this atheism by studying the Bible, and I think you should free yourself from QURAN. Today is Internet age, and nearly all information are just a click away.

Investigate the teachings of LORD and Jesus, and use your mind and judgement to see which is the true words of LORD -- those from Moses/Jesus or those from QURAN.

Also I would suggest you study LOGIC. I have written a logic tutorial, which consists of just 10 pages -- 5 pages questions and 5 pages answers. Work over all the exercises, and you will know logic. Guaranteed. (Guarantee void if you miss out one exercise.) Clear and logical thinking will help you a lot. [click to read]

Muslims do not fare well recently. In India, they are attacked by Hindus. In America, they are attacked by those fanatics under the name of "patriotism". In West Bank, they are attacked by Israelites.

Should people harass you because of terrorist acts performed under the name of Islam, you should endure patiently, and try not to take vengeance with your own hand, and await LORD to administer justice for you.

Personally, I think LORD allows Muslims to be harassed/oppressed because LORD wants you to return to Him, the true GOD. Therefore let everyone of us search our heart deeply in difficult times.

"Humble like a child, meek, gentle and lowly" are taught in Bible, but never in QURAN, therefore most of your people are self-righteous, proud, and in some cases, arrogant, therefore LORD allows this to befall onto you. (Do you want to befriend with a proud/arrogant person, or a humble person?)

During WWII, the Nazis/Fascists used "divide and conquer". First they attacked the Communists, then the Unionists, then the Jews, then the Catholics, then the Christians. Personally, I think the same difficulties will befall us in the future, first the Muslims, then the Catholics, then .....

Let us study the words of LORD while there is still time, and equip ourself with the teachings of LORD/Jesus, also let us be thoroughly familiar with the principles of justice/equity. All these will help us go through the difficult times ahead.


QURAN said that Moses was also a prophet

By
Wu Siu Yan
2 July 2002



QURAN said that Moses was a prophet of LORD, but at the same time, it trashed all teachings of Moses.

It was Moses who brought the Israelites out of Egypt into Israel (old name -- Canaan). The Israelites had been sojourning in Egypt, and the Egyptians dealt harshly with them, treating them as slaves to be oppressed at their pleasure.

Then LORD sent Moses to Pharaoh, king of Egypt, and sent ten plagues among the Egyptians. Finally, the Egyptians let the Israelites leave.

The Israelites travelled along the Sinai Peninsula towards Israel. And at Mount Sinai, LORD gave them the Ten Commandments, as well as The Laws and Commandments.

LORD did not write the Laws and Commandments Himself (except the Ten Commandments). LORD spoke and Moses wrote them down.

Moses also wrote the detailed history from the time they left Egypt up to when they were on the border of Israel -- what happened to them during the journey.

Moses wrote 5 books ( Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy ). In these 5 books are the Laws and Commandments of LORD (spoken by LORD and recorded down by Moses), as well as Moses' dealings with Pharaoh, and the things that happened in the journey.

LORD is eternal TRUTH, therefore LORD's Laws and Commandments will not be changed. Even Jesus taught us to keep the Laws and Commandments.

Jesus :

"Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfil them. For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven." [Mt 5:17-20]

Muslims should check out the Laws and Commandments of LORD written down by Moses. It is no trivial -- it is life and death, because LORD rules the Universe with His Laws, and his rule is simple

KEEP THE LAWS AND COMMANDMENTS => BLESSING
BREAK THE LAWS AND COMMANDMENTS => CURSE

Even if Muslims keep all the QURAN laws, they still wouldn't satisfy LORD, because QURAN Laws are NOT Laws of the Almighty.



The Five Books of Moses : "Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy"

Genesis
Exodus
Leviticus
Numbers
Deuteronomy

The acts of Jesus as recorded in the Gospels of Matthew, of Luke, and of John

Gospel according to Matthew
Gospel according to Luke
Gospel according to John

Quran download

http://www.jannah.com/download/articles/quran.html

Online Bible

http://www.cforc.com/kjv/index.html


No Future for the Muslims if they just take Jesus as a prophet

By
Wu Siu Yan
30 June 2002



Jesus was more than a prophet. Jesus was GOD condescending in human form. And teachings of Jesus = teachings of LORD.

If Muslims continue to listen to QURAN, and regard Jesus just as a prophet whose teachings are not worth listening to, then there will be no future for the Muslims.

On the other hand, if they do a little investigation into the teachings of Jesus, and honor Jesus as the Only Son of LORD, and obey his teachings, then Muslims will have a future, a bright future.


HOW I GOT MY KNOWLEDGE OF BIBLE AND QURAN

By
Wu Siu Yan
29 June 2002



My parents are atheists.

When the communists were about to overrun China, my parents fled China and arrived in Hong Kong in 1949. I was born in 1950.

I hope you know me to be a Chinese from my name -- Chinese name has 3 characters.

I too was an atheist. My parents would follow the Chinese customs -- made offerings to ancestors and to ghosts. When I was young, I just did not pay attention to those rituals, what interested me were the food of the offering, which we ate after the rituals.

I remained an atheist until 1966. On December that year, after a Christmas party, while I was going home, I felt an acute sense of EMPTINESS. When I arrived home, I wanted to read something. I fetched the Bible on the shelf, which was given to my mother by an evangelist, and started to read.

It so happened that I read Jesus' most famous sermon : "Sermon on the Mount".

I believed Jesus' words, and I felt sorry for my sins - pride, unforgiving, jealous, dis-honesty, envy, .... and I cried and repented and became a Christian.

I started reading the New Testament.

It was many years later that I read the Old Testament.

Old Testament was a little difficult, but I skipped over those parts I did not understand. However, I could fully understand the first book, "Genesis", and I loved it!

Over the years, when I grew older, and got more experience in life, I began to understand more of the Bible. I re-read, and re-read the Bible many many times.

I became interested in Muslims when I watched a TV program about Chinese Muslims in Northern China. I thought they were quite nice people, much better than many I meet in Hong Kong !

Then I borrowed QURAN from the library and began to read it. After reading about 25% of it, I came to the conclusion it was not GOD speaking. GOD, the Almighty, the Creator of the whole Universe, could not have spoken that way, therefore I did not finish it.

After half a year ago, there came Sept-11.

The American entertainers put up a music show after Sept-11. There former boxer Ali appeared, as well as a little Muslim girl. The words of that little Muslim girl impressed me much, she wanted to be as carefree with her classmates as was formerly, but unfortunately relationship changed after Sept-11.

I also saw on TV about a Muslim operating a shop in US. He received death-threats, and was subsequently killed. He left behind a widow and children. The sadness of his family, as they appeared on TV saddened me too.

Then I made an determined effort to understand Islam. I downloaded the whole QURAN, and read it page by page, not missing one page. Then I know Muslims were Christians misled by Mohammed, much like the Mormons are Christians misled by Joseph Smith (they both wrote books claiming to be words of GOD, and they both claimed to be prophets).

In QURAN, there are many accusations against Christians, e.g. Christians are poly-theists. We are not. GOD is Almighty. Jesus was a "clone/duplicate" of LORD (a plant cutting, when it grows up, will be exactly like the mother plant), Spirit of TRUTH is the spirit in LORD's heart. We don't treat these as three Almighties of equal standing, the QURAN accused us so.

QURAN also accused us : "None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." Those are their (vain) desires. Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful."

We never said that. The Bible does not say that. In fact, ALL, whether he/she has religion or not, if he/live lives according to the true precepts of LORD, will enter paradise. My great-grandma was not a Christian, yet she taught my mother many precepts which are godly precepts (Click to read her teachings) I fully expect her to be in heaven. Also Aung San Suu Kyi, the Burmese, who wrote "Freedom From Fear", impressed me (many of the Buddhist precepts are precepts of LORD). I never looked down on anyone, and I think other Christians would not too. What QURAN says about us is untrue.

I studied much after Sept-11. It is not time to be lazy.

It is my sincere hope that Muslims would be open-minded, would use their mind, their reasoning power, their eyes and ears -- to see more and to listen more and to observe more, and then form their own conclusion, not just taking what QURAN says as 100% words of LORD. 5% poison in 95% food will kill you. Your teachers will only show you the "food", never the "poison".

Many Muslims, I found out, haven't read the QURAN in its entity, cover to cover, much less have they read the Bible. They take the words of QURAN, 100% eternal TRUTH. They simply do not investigate.

QURAN does not teach "humbleness", "childlike", whereas Jesus taught us : "Unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Whoever humbles himself like this child, he is the greattest in the kingdom of heaven." [Mt 18:3-4]

This "pure as a child, return and become like a child, humble like a child" is the CORNERSTONE teaching of Jesus, apart from those in "Sermon on the Mount". QURAN never teach this MOST important precept of mankind.

Therefore children around the world are free, joyous, humble and meek, whereas Muslims children seem not to have a childhood. I feel very sorry for Muslim children.

I think Muslims should deeply search their hearts today, and make a study of the Bible on their own, also study QURAN to make a comparison. It is not trivial, it is life and death.

Muslims, if they continue in their present attitude, will be cursed, and will be persecuted and oppressed around the world. They will not be blessed until they return to the true GOD.

If they return, and hold fast "honesty and uprightness -- YES be YES, and NO be NO", and no taking vengeance with own hands, "meek, pure, gentle, humble, like a child", and keep the Laws and Commandments of LORD, then they will be blessed, and LORD will deliver them from their strong oppressors around the world. But until that time, they remain in a state of curse, and will be oppressed.


QUICK AND EASY WAY TO UNDERSTAND CHRISTIANS

By
Wu Siu Yan
28 June 2002



You do not have to read many books discussing Christianity to know Christianity, just click and listen to some hymns loved by Chinese, and you can gain immense insight into Christianity. The easiest way.


LORD a deceiver ?

By
Wu Siu Yan
28 June 2002



KS quoted the Bible below to show that LORD is a deceiver :

LORD :
"And if the prophet is enticed to utter a prophecy, I THE LORD HAVE ENTICED THAT PROPHET, and I will stretch out my hand against him and destroy him from among my people Israel." [[Eze 14:9]



We should not understand a verse in its isolation, but in its full context. Chapter 14 of [Ezekiel] said that any person who has taken a IDOL into his heart and yet comes to the prophet, the prophet MUST NOT PROPHESY FOR HIM.

LORD :

"Son of man, these men have taken their idols into their hearts, and set the stumbling block of their iniquity before their faces; should I let myself be inquired at all by them ? .... And if the prophet be deceived and speak a word, I, the LORD, have DECEIVED that prophet,and I will stretch out my hand against him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel. ....... " [Ezekiel 14:3-11]


Woman should shut up in church ?

By
Wu Siu Yan
28 June 2002



KS quoted the Bible below to show Christians allow no woman to speak in church,

Paul :

"I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent." [1 Timothy 2:12]




Paul was a good Christian that preached to many people in many places, and he established many churches around the Mediterranean coast. His letters comprised a large part of the New Testament.

Paul had every right to express his views in his letters, but we are not bounded to listen to him.

The Catholic church listens and permits no woman priest.

Christian church allows woman to be a preacher, but the proportion of woman is usually small.

As for the role of woman, LORD made it clear that "wife is a HELPER to her husband [Genesis 2:18]" and that "wife should be under the authority of her husband." [Num 30:2-15]

Yet LORD did not prohibit woman from taking up important spiritual posts. e.g. Deborah was a prophetess, and judge, and military leader in Israel (please read [Judges 4] ).


LORD a deceiver? is evil ?

By
Wu Siu Yan
28 June 2002



(1)

KS quoted the Bible below to show LORD deceived Jeremiah,

Jeremiah said that LORD deceived him :
"O LORD, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived; thou art stronger than I, and thou hast prevailed. .... " [Jer 20:7]



(2)

Job was a righteous man, yet he suffered terrible fate : his children were all killed, and his property robbed, and he himself had severe sickness on his body. He wanted to sue LORD in court for wronging him !

Job :

"For he is not a man, as I am, that I might answer him, that we should come to trial together. There is no umpire between us who might lay his hand upon us both." [Job 9:32-33]

Job had three friends. And his friends rebuked Job, arguing that LORD couldn't be in the wrong, therefore it must be Job or his children that had sinned that brought this upon him.

LORD did not punish Job for his bold words, but made Job's three friends offer seven bulls and seven rams as punishment for their attitude (REASON : they did not use their mind and their eyes, and did not observe carefully the things that happen on Earth, whereas Job did, and also was bold enough to speak out of his heart). [Job 42:7-9]



(3)

Asaph, in [Psalm 73], said that LORD wasn't fair/just in His dealing with men. He was keen in keeping the commandments of LORD and yet got punished often, whereas the wicked enjoyed riches and good health, and did not receive punishment,

Asaph :

" .... For I was envious of the arrogant, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked. For they have no pangs; their bodies are sound and sleek. They are not in trouble as other men are; they are not stricken like other men. Therefore pride is their necklace; violence covers them as a garment. Their eyes swell out with fatness, their hearts overflow with follies. They scoff and speak with malice; loftily they threaten oppression. They set their mouths against the heavens, and their tongues struts through the earth. Therefore the people turn and praise them; and find no fault in them. And they say, "How can GOD know? Is there knowledge in the Most High?" Behold, these are the wicked; always at ease, they increase in riches. All in vain have I kept my heart clean and washed my hands in innocence. For all the day long I have been stricken, and chastened every morning. ... " [Psalm 73:3-14]

Whether LORD deceived Jeremiah, or had been unjust to Job or to Asaph, LORD allows us to decide for ourselves. LORD did not stop people from speaking against Him in the Bible.

This is what I mean by "LORD encourages us to use our mind, and reasoning power, and to raise questions."


Those who have read the QURAN must read D&C

By
Wu Siu Yan
27 June 2002



If you have read the QURAN cover to cover, then you must read D&C (Doctrines and Covenants), a book written by Joseph Smith, founder of Mormon Church.

D&C to Mormons is as QURAN to Muslims.

Joseph Smith said that LORD spoke to him, and Joseph Smith was also a prophet.

QURAN said that Mohammed was the Last prophet.

If Joseph Smith was truly a prophet, then Mohammed was not the last.

D&C may be read at

http://scriptures.lds.org/dc/sections

Enoch wrote his own obituary ? (Cf. with Moses)

To KS,

If after reading the whole "Deuteronomy" and you are not convinced that it was Moses who led out the Israelites that wrote the book, except the last chapter, and if reading the whole "Book of Enoch", you are not convinced that it was Enoch who wrote the book except the last two chapters, then I came to the conclusion that you are open enough to seek out the truth, but are 100% biased from the beginning.

Therefore let us stop now. It is pointless to go on.

Wu Siu Yan

P.S. If you do not know Enoch, you probably do not know the lineage of Adam, the first man created by LORD.


Enoch wrote his own obituary ? (Cf. with Moses)

By
Wu Siu Yan
27 June 2002



Enoch was born before Noah, before the flood. All books written by him were destroyed by the Catholic Church. But people found some copies in churches in Ethiopia and in Belgrade in the 19th century, and so we found Books of Enoch in the Internet today.

The following is "Book of Enoch"

http://www.bible2000.org/lostbooks/enochs2.htm

In the last chapter, it is written

Chapter 68

Enoch was born on the sixth day of the month Tsivan, and lived three hundred and sixty-five years.

He was taken up to heaven on the first day of the month Tsivan and remained in heaven sixty days.

He wrote all these signs of all creation, which the Lord created, and wrote three hundred and sixty-six books, and handed them over to his sons and remained on earth thirty days, and was again taken up to heaven on the sixth day of the month Tsivan, on the very day and hour when he was born.

As every man nature in this life is dark, so are also his conception, birth, and departure from this life.

At what hour he was conceived, at that hour he was born, and at that hour too he died.

Methosalam and his brethren, all the sons of Enoch, made haste, and erected an altar at that place called Achuzan, whence and where Enoch had been taken up to heaven.

And they took sacrificial oxen and summoned all people and sacrificed the sacrifice before the Lord face.

All people, the elders of the people and the whole assembly came to the feast and brought gifts to the sons of Enoch.

And they made a great feast, rejoicing and making merry three days, praising God, who had given them such a sign through Enoch, who had found favour with him, and that they should hand it on to their sons from generation to generation, from age to age.

Amen.



But in Chapter 66, it was written,



Chapter 66

And now, my children, keep your souls from all injustice, such as the Lord hates.

Walk before his face with terror and trembling and serve him alone.

Bow down to the true God, not to dumb idols, but bow down to his similitude, and bring all just offerings before the Lord's face. The Lord hates what is unjust.

For the Lord sees all things; when man takes thought in his heart, then he counsels the intellects, and every thought is always before the Lord, who made firm the earth and put all creatures on it.

If you look to heaven, the Lord is there; if you take thought of the sea's deep and all the under-earth, the Lord is there.

For the Lord created all things. Bow not down to things made by man, leaving the Lord of all creation, because no work can remain hidden before the Lord's face.

Walk, my children, in long-suffering, in meekness, honesty, in provocation, in grief, in faith and in truth, in reliance on promises, in illness, in abuse, in wounds, in temptation, in nakedness, in privation, loving one another, till you go out from this age of ills, that you become inheritors of endless time.

Blessed are the just who shall escape the great judgment, for they shall shine forth more than the sun sevenfold, for in this world the seventh part is taken off from all, light, darkness, food, enjoyment, sorrow, paradise, torture, fire, frost, and other things; he put all down in writing, that you might read and understand.



It is plain that two different persons wrote Chapter 66 and Chapter 68. If one cares to check further, it may be seen that the last two chapters, chapters 67 and 68, were not written by Enoch.

It was the custom of people to add something about the author at the end of his book. So someone added two chapters at the end of Enoch's book, and someone added a chapter at the end of Moses book "Deuteronomy".

Enoch did not write his own obituary, neither did Moses.


Palestinian Boys throwing stones

By
Wu Siu Yan
27 June 2002



I sympathize with the plight of the Palestinians, but I feel very sorry to see small boys as young as 7 or 8 throwing stones at the Israelites.

LORD :

But if he struck him down with an instrument of iron, so that he died, he is a murderer; the murderer shall be put to death. And if he struck him down with a stone in hand, by which a man may die, and he died, he is a murderer; the murderer shall be put to death. Or if he struck him down with a weapon of wood in the hand, by which a man may die, and he died, he is a murderer; the murderer shall be put to death. ....

But if he stabbed him suddenly without enmity, or hurled anything on him without lying in wait, or used a stone, by which a man may die, and without seeing him cast it upon him, so that he died, though he was not his enemy, and did not seek his harm; then the congregation shall judge between the manslayer and the avenger of blood, in accordance with these ordinance; and the congregation shall rescue the manslayer from the hand of the avenger of blood, .... [Numbers 35:16-28]

Therefore, intentionally throwing stones that may kill is a very serious act in the sight of LORD.

The Palestinians, if they have known that LORD is God of Justice, should patiently endure their injustices until LORD executes justice for them.

Their very act of throwing stones that may kill, by boys as young as 7 or 8, and having none of their family members (father, brothers, uncle) to restrain them, is an act that would not serve their cause, but hurt their cause.


Reply to KS

By
Wu Siu Yan
25 June 2002



Hi Kashif,

Thanks for your opinion.

As for the various questions you raised, my answers are :

(A) Moses wrote Deuteronomy ?

[Kashif]

"So Moses . . . DIED . . . And he (God Almighty) BURIED HIM (Moses) ... he was 120 years old when he DIED ... And there arose not a prophet SINCE in Israel like unto Moses ? (Deut. 34:5-10).

If Moses is the author, then could he have written his own obituary before his death?? Looks like it is a 3rd person who is writing these narratives, and not Moses.

[Wu]

It is usual that others will add a chapter or two at the end of a book after the death of the author, and this was the habit of the scribes of Israel of old.

Therefore it is of no surprise that someone added in Deuteronomy, Chapter 34 :

"So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD, and he buried him in the valley in the land of Moab opposite Beth-peor; but no man knows the place of his burial to this day. Moses was a hundred and twenty years old when he died; his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated. And the people of Israel wept for Moses in the plains of Moab thirty days; .... " [Deut 34:5-...]

Kindly read [Deuteronomy] Chapter 1 to Chapter 34, and decide for yourself whether Moses wrote [Deuteronomy] or not.



(B) Jesus the Only Son of GOD

[Kashif]

Mr Wu it seems to me that you are unaware of the fact that "God" in the Bible has "sons" by the tons and not just Jesus! I am quoting verses from your Bible below which contradict your view:

"....Adam, which was the son of God." Luke 3:38

[Wu]

You have some misunderstanding here.

ALL CHRISTIANS who walk in the teachings of LORD and Jesus may be said to be "sons/daughters" of LORD. In our prayer, we start with "Our Father in Heaven, .... "

But why do we call Jesus the "Only Son of GOD" ? Because Jesus was created BEFORE GOD created Earth, NOT AFTER. We are all created AFTER, NOT BEFORE. GOD created Jesus to be a "duplicate of Himself" to be sent down to Earth, and He created Jesus before He created the Earth, and before He created the things on Earth, e.g. fish/bird/tree/....

Therefore Jesus has extraordinary power like that of GOD, e.g. Jesus can heal people of sicknesses, can walk on water, can create food out of nothing, can resurrect a person from death, .... (Please read the Gospel of Matthew, Gospel of Luke, Gospel of John which recorded the acts of Jesus.)



(C) Islam does not demand "honesty and uprightness"

What I mean is

[Sura 2, The Heifer, Al-Baqarah, verse 225]

GOD does not hold you responsible
for the mere utterance of oaths;
He holds you responsible for your innermost intentions.
GOD is Forgiver, Clement.

Whereas Jesus plainly taught us : "Again you have heard that it was said to the men of old, 'You shall not swear falsely, but shall perform to the LORD what you have sworn.' But I say to you, Do not swear at all, either by heaven, for it is the throne of God, or by the earth, for it is his footstool, or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make one hair white or black. Let what you say be simply 'Yes' or 'No'; anything more than this comes from evil." [Mt 5:33-37]

But QURAN allows "oaths", even refuting one's oath based on "intention of heart is not the same as that oath" ! This will create a devious people, a crafty race, not a people of "absolute honesty and uprightness".

Also, we Christian are allowed to ask questions, to voice our opinion, and no other Christians nor the Church will stone us to death, or ostracize us. But Muslims dare not raise questions, even though he may question that teaching in his heart. Therefore, he would not speak his heart, nor raise questions, for fear of being stoned to death, or ostracism by other Muslims.

Would you like your sons to raise questions ? Would you like your sons to live in fear ? Similarly for LORD : LORD encourages us to use our mind, to use our reasoning power, to raise questions, to see the rationale of His teachings. LORD does not want us to live in fear.

(D) "Islam permits taking vengeance with own hands"

What I mean is

[Sura 22: Pilgrimage, Al-Hajj, verse 60]

It is decreed that if one avenges
an injustice that was inflicted upon
him, equitably, then he is persecuted
because of this, GOD will surely
support him. GOD is Pardoner,
Forgiving.

Whereas LORD taught us that "Justice belongs to LORD; vengeance belongs to LORD; and that we should not take vengeance with our own hands." That is, we believe we will receive 100% justice from LORD, as LORD is GOD of justice, and we never take vengeance with our own hands.

If a city, if everyone is allowed to take justice into one's hand, there will be chaos. Only policeman can administer justice. So is the same with LORD. There are angels to administer justice invisibly throughout the Earth, and we are not allowed to take justice into our hands when being wronged.

Even Jesus taught us : "You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' But I say to you, Do not resist one who is evil. But if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also; and if any one would sue you and take your coat, let him have your cloak as well; and if any one forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to him who begs from you, and do not refuse him who would borrow from you. You have heard that it was said 'You shall love your neighbour and hate your enemy.' But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you salute only your brethren, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? You, therefore, must be perfect , as your heavenly Father is perfect. [Mt 5:38-48]

Finally, I sincerely hope you would read the Bible cover to cover (If Old Testament is too boring, I suggest that you read the Gospels first, the links of which are given below, just click and read).

Gospels of Matthew, of Luke, and of John

http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Matthew/index.html
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Luke/index.html
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/John/index.html

It appears to me that you must have read part of the Bible, and it is my hope that you read all, so that you can form better judgement as to the teachings of GOD in the Bible (or you may click my webpages which provide rapid and quick summaries of teachings of LORD, of Jesus).

As for me, I have read the whole Quran. My views on Quran may be found in,

islampost.htm
islampost2.htm

If you have questions, please raise them, and let us discuss them in a spirit of friendship and pursuit of TRUTH.


MORE ON D&C AND QURAN

By
Wu Siu Yan
23 June 2002



Note :

LDS = Latter-Day-Saints, Mormon Church.

BOM = Book of Mormon -- history of Mayan people, now extinguished, but whose history on gold/brass plates was found and translated by Joseph Smith into this book.

D&C = "Doctrines and Covenants", a book written by Joseph Smith, claimed to be GOD's revelation to him. BOM has the same standing to Mormons as Quran is to Muslims.

JS = Joseph Smith.

Holy Ghost = Spirit of TRUTH = The spirit of Almighty GOD. (GOD, LORD, The Almighty, The Creator, mean the same)

I try to explain my belief that both Joseph Smith, author of D&C, and Mohammed, author of Quran, were deceived by demons pretending to be the Almighty GOD.



In my opinion, JS was a good Christian in the beginning, but fell later in his life.

If JS was not a pious young man, LORD would not have revealed the gold/brass plates engraved with Mayan history to him and given him the task of translation (ability to read Mayan hieroglyphs).

As for Mohammed, I knew little about him. But from the writings of his followers, appended as footnotes in Quran, I can sense that they had a high regard for moral, and had great sorrow for the Roman's way of life : life spent in pleasure and revelry, pleasure in other's suffering (gladiators fighting to a bloody death to amuse spectators, as well as Christians/prisoners fighting lions/leopards till death), bath houses becoming places for sodomy and prostitution, .... They were angry with the Romans because they "destroyed" the souls of many, which they regarded as worse than physically killing the body. Therefore, they warred against the Romans. And it happened that LORD gave them many victories and they gained vast territories from the Romans.

However I think both JS and Mohammed fell later in their life.

There are good angels -- those obedient to LORD, and there are demons/evil-spirits -- those that disobey LORD, or exalt themselves even over the Creator (LORD gave angels freewill too).

Satan/demons are invisible to us, and would tempt us in numerous ways. Therefore they are great dangers to us. Even Jesus and Paul (author of many books in New Testament) warned us in the Bible,

Jesus spoke the following to his disciples just before he was arrested : "So, could you not watch with me one hour? Watch and pray that you may not enter into temptation; the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak." [Mt 26:40-41]

Paul : "Therefore let any one who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall." [1 Cor 10:12]

Many can hear voices, and many of those voices claim to be the Holy Ghost! The usual ways to discern demons pretending to be the Holy Ghost are :

  1. Jesus : "You will know them by their fruits." [Matthew 7:15-18] (i.e. Does that spirit possess the qualities of LORD : kindness, mercy, graciousness, slow to anger/forgiving, abounding in steadfast love, abounding in faithfulness, meek, gentle, lowly, pure, honest, upright, jealous against iniquity, ... ?)

  2. Jesus : "He who does not enter the sheepfold by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber." [John 10:1] (i.e. LORD would always use "lawful and right" means to do things. Anything not lawful nor right nor exposable to light would usually be from demons. Demons and the wicked usually walk in the dark, and would not let their acts/intentions be known).


A preacher in Hong Kong taught me the following methods :


  1. Is that teaching contrary to Bible teachings ? (i.e. Use Bible teachings as plummet to measure against all other teachings.)

  2. Is your spirit troubled because of that teaching ? (those who really walk Jesus' teachings will feel unease over strange teachings, just as many early Mormons felt unease over "Principle of Celestial Marriage", or polygamy.)

  3. Consult with your fellow brothers and sisters of Christ. (Demons may deceive us if we act alone, but if we discuss thoroughly among ourselves, we are less likely to be deceived. Never be conceited, thinking that "I must be a highly favored person of the LORD, because the Holy Ghost (or Almighty) speaks to no one but me". Demons know how to use our pride/vanity to deceive us.)


I am sure that JS did hear voices, and that voices did claim to be the Holy Ghost ( ===> D&C ).

I am also sure that Mohammed did hear voices, and that voices claimed to be the Holy Ghost too ( ===> QURAN).

Demons are really skillful in their temptations and deceiving, therefore let all of us remember Jesus' word : "Watch and pray that you may not enter into temptation; the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak." Also let us learn and walk LORD/Jesus' teachings diligently. In this way, we are less likely to be deceived.


LDS <==> Islam

By
Wu Siu Yan
22 June 2002



Note :

LDS = Latter-Day-Saints, Mormon Church.

BOM = Book of Mormon. History of Mayan people, now extinguished, but whose history on gold/brass plates was found and translated by Joseph Smith into this book.

D&C = "Doctrines and Covenants", a book written by Joseph Smith, claimed to be GOD's revelation to him. BOM has the same standing to Mormons as Quran is to Muslims.

I try to explain my view that LDS will become another religion like Islam in the future, in this article.




Question : are the precepts in Quran godly precepts ?

LORD demands "honesty and uprightness" -- Jesus :"Let your Yes be Yes and No be No". This is not so in Islam. Once this "foundation" is neglected, the rest of the "building" can never be secure. Therefore Muslims could never be a blessed people, and we find Muslims throughout the world oppressed and oppressed by enemies too strong for them.

LORD demands that we take no vengeance with our own hands (for that breaks the Laws. Vengeance belongs to LORD), Islam permits taking vengeance with own hands.

There are too many teachings in Quran that deviate from GOD's teachings.

At the time when Mohammed "received the revelation of Quran", the people there probably knew of Moses' 5 books, as well as some teachings of Jesus, or else Quran would not have acknowledged Moses and Jesus.

But now, no Muslim would read Moses' books or Jesus' teachings. They know nothing other than Quran. None know the teachings of Moses or Jesus. (And we esteem Jesus to be GOD condescending in human form ! Jesus is the only Son of GOD, or a "duplicate" of GOD, created by GOD and sent down to Earth.)

Today, the Mormons still read the Bible and BOM (but alas, many do not interpret the message in them using their common sense, but let their church leaders interpret for them!), but the emphasis is on D&C. Ask any Mormon missionary you encounter in the street, the typical "preachings" are (a) LDS is the only correct church on Earth (b) there is a modern day prophet in LDS who is GOD's representative. (Islam esteem Mohammed to be the Last Prophet, LDS claims there is a prophet in every generation and Joseph Smith was one of them.)

Are these godly precepts of the Bible, of the BOM ? (Did Bible or BOM mention only ONE correct church on Earth ?) or precepts according to LDS D&C ? Is it the will of Jesus that missionaries preach these and not "Sermon on the Mount" ? Even Mayans preached Jesus -- salvation of mankind from the fall of Adam through Jesus' death on the cross.

Imagine several centuries from now, the importance of D&C will grow bigger and bigger, and the importance of Bible and BOM will diminish, and one day, LDS will only have D&C. And members of LDS will know only D&C, and none of the teachings of LORD, of Jesus (as Muslims know not the teachings of Moses, Jesus, today). LDS will tread the path of Islam and Quran. (They may retain the Bible and BOM, but the precepts in them will be alien to them, or totally twisted to suit D&C.) Even LDS today bears some resemblance of Muslims/Islam, and there are people who call LDS, "Latter Day Pharisees".

Yesterday, I watched a TV program in Hong Kong -- "A Child's Century of War", which is a documentary of children in War, but mostly of the children in Chechen (former Russia), and West Bank (Israel). The children there are all Muslims. They suffer day-in and day-out. But they still believe that Quran is the true words of LORD, and they do not know that Quran is the hindrance of all progress.

(Note : Isabella Bird travelled extensively around the world in the 19th Century, and she has published many travel books which may be purchased/downloaded from the Internet, e.g. Project Gutenberg http://www.promo.net/pg , use author keywords "bird, isabella". She said that wherever Islam went, the progress of that place stopped.)

The precepts of LORD, of Jesus must be retained in its purity, as TRUTH is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. And only TRUTH can endure to eternity. And only TRUTH can make a person free.

If your food is 95% nutritious, but 5% poison, you will die. The same is true for all precepts not from LORD -- precepts that are changed from the pure precepts of LORD, of Jesus.

It is not a trivial matter that people may leave it. Millions of people are involved -- all the Mormons, all the Muslims, in the world. We have a responsibility and duty, first we study and walk in LORD/Jesus' teachings, then help them get out of D&C and Quran. Only when they walk in the pure teachings of LORD/Jesus, would they be blessed.


D&C <===> QURAN

By
Wu Siu Yan
14 June 2002



(Note : D&C, abbreviation for "Doctrines and Covenants", is a book written by Joseph Smith, founder of Mormon Church (or LDS - Latter Day Saints), and claims to contain the revelation of LORD, i.e. GOD spoke to Joseph Smith, much as Quran, which claimed to be the words LORD spoke to Mohammed.)

Quran acknowledges Moses and Jesus. Yet ask any Muslim, if he/she knows the teachings of Moses, of Jesus. The Muslims know them not other than teachings of Quran (eat no pork, fast, pray to Mecca, wash hand and feet, give alms, ... These are not wrong, but DIVERSIONS to draw people away from the true teachings of LORD and of Jesus. Also, there are deadly precepts in Quran, e.g. "martyrdom" means "dying for Islam" rather than "dying for honesty, uprightness, kindness, mercy, faithfulness, meekness, humility, .....")

LDS acknowledges LORD and Jesus. Yet ask any LDS, if he/she could recite the Ten Commandments, Laws and Commandments of LORD, "Sermon on the Mount", by heart. LDS know mainly the teachings of D&C -- again, these are diversions to draw people away from the true teachings of LORD and of Jesus.

If LDS would not throw away D&C, LDS would be another "Islam", and D&C would be another "QURAN", and members of LDS will know nothing of the true teachings of LORD and Jesus. They will be as ignorant as the Muslims as to the teachings of LORD and of Jesus.

Return to LORD and Jesus, read the Bible cover to cover on your own, not letting any other interprete the message for you, but interprete the message in it using your COMMON SENSE. Let not the errors of others be your fall.


The Five Books of Moses : "Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy"

Genesis
Exodus
Leviticus
Numbers
Deuteronomy

The acts of Jesus as recorded in the Gospels of Matthew, of Luke, and of John

Gospel according to Matthew
Gospel according to Luke
Gospel according to John

Quran download

http://www.jannah.com/download/articles/quran.html

Online Bible

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