Jesus died at the age of 33,
a tragic death on the cross

Jesus faced persecution, many people sought to destroy him, and finally they succeeded and nailed him to the cross.

Jesus left behind an example, that people should only do what is right in the sight of GOD, even at the peril of death.

Click to know about,

  1. Main Teachings of Jesus

  2. Other Teachings of Jesus

  3. Law of GOD and His Commandments

  4. Hymn




GOD resurrected Jesus and Jesus is now in heaven





Dear Muslims,

The followings are my postings to a Christian-Muslim discussion group,

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Christian-Muslim
Kindly read them, they may help you understand Allah better.

From a servant of Allah,
Wu Siu Yan


Content

  1. Quran was not dictated through Gabriel, nor Michael, nor LORD, but by "We", who are "We"
  2. Jesus was more than a messenger. LORD GOD made a duplicate of Himself, and sent the Duplicate to Earth. Who can do the miracles Jesus did, other than LORD GOD Himself?
  3. Duplicate of LORD ?
  4. Re: Duplicate of LORD ?
  5. Questions to a Muslim
  6. A question of honesty and uprightness Vs. Oath
  7. The Unique Role of Jesus On Planet Earth
  8. APPEAL TO ALL MUSLIMS
  9. Danger of philosophical discussion
  10. Allah's 10 commandments
  11. Who are the "rebelled angels" that dictated the Quran through Mohammed ?
  12. Joseph and his master's wife
  13. Re: Joseph and his master's wife (Moses and Pharaoh)
  14. Re: The Unique Role of Jesus On Planet Earth
  15. Bin Laden the mastermind ? How to arrive at the truth ?
  16. Re: Have you read the Quran from cover to cover?
  17. Teachings in Quran are not 100% correct
  18. Do you think you (Wu Siu Yan) are perfect?
  19. I love the Muslims
  20. Teachings of Jesus as recorded by Jesus' disciples
  21. My personal view about "Islam was spreaded by the sword"
  22. Moses' Account of the Flood
  23. There will be no judgement if there is no freewill
  24. Humble Vs. Proud
  25. The friend who never fails you
  26. A reply when I was accused of making derogatory remarks about Islam
  27. The world and the Hereafter
  28. Homosexuality is Punishable by Death According to LORD's Laws
  29. Two kinds of Attitudes
  30. "Wealth" and "Law about Inheritance" in Bible
  31. One Law for All
  32. Question Allah ? Sue Allah in court ?
  33. FEMALE, MALE
  34. THEFT LAWS (MOSES' VERSION)
  35. Think Critically. True to Ourself
  36. The King with no clothes
  37. Deer ? Horse ?
  38. Secret Alliance (or Secret Combination)
  39. LORD, Jesus and the Spirit of Truth
  40. Who dare Support A Muslim Country 100% based on Quran's Laws
  41. Plainness
  42. GLORY IN OUR WISDOM ?
  43. The feeling that something is wrong indicates troubles
  44. Cleanliness, Clean food, etc (Moses' Version)
  45. LAW ENFORCEMENT
  46. Quality Circle in Japan
  47. Name of LORD
  48. Name of Jesus
  49. BAPTISM AND "HOLY TRINITY" ?
  50. CONVERSION DIFFICULTIES
  51. TAKE VENGEANCE WITH OUR OWN HAND ?
  52. SALVATION IS GIFT, NOT BECAUSE OF WORKS
  53. .... more ....

Quran was not dictated through Gabriel, nor Michael, nor LORD, but by "We", who are "We"

In the Bible, we would find first person speaking,

Thus said the LORD : " ..... "

In Quran, we do not find

Thus said the LORD : " .... "

OR

Thus said Gabriel : " .... "

OR

Thus said Michael : " .... "

But "We" speaking for LORD, speaking for Gabriel, speaking for Michael.

Who are "We" that dictated the Quran (to Mohammed) ?

They claimed themselves to be "angels of LORD", speaking for LORD, or speaking for Gabriel, speaking for Michael.

It was the words of the "rebelled angels of LORD", those angels who disobeyed LORD. They deliberately distorted the teachings of LORD, e.g. they changed the Laws of GOD, and took away the precious part of the teachings of Jesus, e.g. those teachings like, "Return and become like a child, humble as a child. Pure in heart. Honesty - Yes be Yes and No be No and no oath." (For the reason, please click my essay

http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/islam.htm )

Moreover, "they" threw away all previous writings - writing by Enoch [1] [2], writing by Moses, writing by Joseph, writing by disciples of Jesus (Matthew, Luke, John), .... They even threw away the DIRECT TEACHINGS OF LORD recorded in the Bible (those "Thus said the LORD .... ")

"They" threw away ALL, EVERYTHING, and "they" said their words (Quran) are to replace them all, stopping ALL muslims from reading books other than Quran.

We Christians are not constrained by this. LORD did not stop us from reading, everything not illegal (according to the Law of LORD) is permitted. Therefore I may read Quran (I have read the whole Quran), I may read books written by Enoch, by Moses, by disciples of Jesus, or even books by Buddhists.

Wu Siu Yan


Jesus was more than a messenger. LORD GOD made a duplicate of Himself, and sent the Duplicate to Earth. Who can do the miracles Jesus did, other than LORD GOD Himself ?

Christians believe that GOD made a duplicate of Himself, and sent that "Duplicate" onto Earth (i.e. LORD (or Allah) came down to Earth in human form to teach us, and that "Duplicate of Allah", we call Jesus. Jesus did a lot of miracles on Earth, and no one other than Allah could do those miracles - healed the blind, the lame; resurrected dead people; walked on water; created food out of nothing; ....

The best way to understand Christian is to listen to their music. I hope Muslims would click the link below to listen to some Christian music,

http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/hymn.htm

Wu Siu Yan.


Duplicate of LORD ?

A child inherits DNA from his/her parents. DNA is "computer codes in our body".

Therefore a child may look like 100% the father, or 100% the mother, or 50% father + 50% mother, or percentages in between.

Jesus was the only son of LORD, 100% like LORD.

Wu Siu Yan


Re: Duplicate of LORD ?

Dear ....,

We are created by LORD. All our "hardware" and "software" are given to us by LORD. Our "hardware" is not as strong as an "ox or elephant or hippo, ... ", but our "software" is better than they, for they cannot do maths/calculus/.... as we can.

Wu Siu Yan.


Questions to a Muslim

Dear ....,

Have you ever read the Bible, from cover to cover?

Do you know the DIRECT TEACHINGS of LORD, those "thus said the LORD .... " ?

Have you read the five books of Moses [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]?

Have you read the Book of Enoch ? ....

Have you read any books by the disciples of Jesus, those Gospels in the New Testament [1] [2] [3]?

Have you ever read any other books by "messengers", or "prophets" other than that through Mohammed ?

Wu Siu Yan


A question of honesty and uprightness Vs. Oath

"We" in Quran permitted "oath", even repeating the oaths many times to assert that one is speaking the truth! But LORD, Jesus, Enoch, ..... and many many prophets/messengers stressed the importance of "honesty and uprightness".

LORD : "You shall not steal, nor deal falsely, nor lie to one another." [Lev. 19:11]
(i.e. No false dealing nor lies)

Jesus : "Again you have heard that it was said to the men of old, 'You shall not swear falsely, but shall perform to the LORD what you have sworn.' But I say to you, Do not swear at all, either by heaven, for it is the throne of God, or by the earth, for it is his footstool, or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make one hair white or black. Let what you say be simply 'Yes' or 'No'; anything more than this comes from evil". [Mt 5:33-37]
(i.e. Yes be Yes, and No be No, and NO oath)

Enoch : "

Hear, ye sons of Enoch, all the words of your father, 
And hearken aright to the voice of my mouth; 
For I exhort you and say unto you, beloved: 

Love uprightness and walk therein.
And draw not nigh to uprightness with a double heart,
And associate not with those of a double heart, 

But walk in righteousness, my sons.
And it shall guide you on good paths,
And righteousness shall be your companion.
....
"
[Book of Enoch 91:2-4]

(Note : Enoch did not taste death, he lived 365 years and was taken up to LORD. Enoch was born before Noah, before the flood. [Gen 5:21])

Shall we make oath to assert that we are honest ? or we speak the truth at all times ?

Do you believe that we are but sand and dust, created by LORD, and that everything of ours, our "hardware" and "software" were designed and created by LORD ?

Do you think "life after death" is automatic for all believers? Or do we have to stand before the Judgement Seat of LORD (=Allah), and be judged of all things we do before entering the "New Heaven and New Earth" ? Do you think that LORD is able, to "video-tape" all our doings and sayings, and thus no lies can be hidden from LORD in the Last Day ?

Wu Siu Yan


The Unique Role of Jesus On Planet Earth

This world is a dangerous world, full of traps that would entangle us into troubles and sorrows. How are we to live this life ?

LORD GOD already forsaw this, and He made a duplicate of Himself (the only son, with 100% LORD's likeness), and sent him down to Earth to teach us how to live. Therefore we Christian called this "the condescension of LORD - GOD appearing in human form to teach us".

Jesus did only that was right in the sight of LORD, even when the scribes, the elders, the Priests, and the Pharisees were all against him. Jesus did nothing against TRUTH, even when some of his disciples wanted him to be king to lead an rebellion against the Romans, Jesus did not consent, because that would be against TRUTH, and would send the souls of many into hell. Therefore Jesus did not do that, but willingly submitted himself to the will of LORD - death on the cross, much like a lamb is dumb before being killed

Jesus therefore left behind an example. Life is dangerous, and very often, we will have to make a choice to do right or to sell our soul in order to survive. We should be like Jesus, do only that is right in the sight of LORD, holding fast the commandments of LORD, and do nothing against TRUTH, even onto death.

Jesus taught us many things and they are recorded by his disciples in the Gospels (New Testament, the Gospels according to Matthew/Luke/John).

THESE ARE THE TEACHINGS OF LORD, AND NOT TEACHINGS OF MEN.

Therefore we Christian cherish the teachings of Jesus, especially Sermon on the Mount.

But the "we" in Quran said that LORD had no son, therefore Jesus was only a messenger, and Jesus' teachings were not as correct as the teachings "we" in Quran taught.

Jesus' teachings are unique, e.g. Jesus : "Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Whoever humbles himself like this child, he is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven." [Mt 18:3-4]

Jesus : "Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see GOD." [Mt 5:8]

Therefore we Christian keep our hearts pure as a child. Even now I am 52 years of age, my heart is still the same as when I was 10 years old. My knowledge may grow, but my heart is still the same heart as when I was 10.

Moreover, Jesus taught us : "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; even as I have loved you, that you also love one another." [John 13:34] Therefore we Christians love one another, we treat each other as brother and sister. (Truly we are brothers and sisters, for we all hold fast Jesus' teachings and LORD's teachings.)

There are other teachings of Jesus of monumental importance : (GOLDEN RULE) "So whatever you wish that men would do to you, do so to them; for this is the law and the prophets." [Mt 7:12]

Therefore Jesus has a unique role on planet Earth. He is GOD's only son, and his teachings are the teachings of LORD.

Jesus' teachings are extremely simple and plain : Sermon on the Mount contains more than 80% of his teachings, and the rest may be found in the Gospels.

Quran, because it is not the direct teachings of LORD, but "we", those spirits that rebelled against LORD, and not LORD's spirit of TRUTH, will only give one unease, uncertainty, insecure feeling, and confusion.

Therefore I hope Moslems would listen to some hymn by believers of Jesus,

http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/hymn.htm

because music conveys the sentiment in our hearts.

If after listening to the hymn, you are convinced that Christians are not misled by Jesus, then study the teachings of Jesus and of LORD, and buy a Bible.

As for the mystery of Quran, if you wish to understand it, you may click my webpage below, but only after you have read the Bible.

http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/islam.htm

Wu Siu Yan
5th November, 2001


APPEAL TO ALL MUSLIMS

Kindly listen to some Christian hymns,

http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/hymn.htm

which conveys the sentiments in our hearts. If you think we are not led astray by Jesus, and Jesus really is the only son of GOD ( = Allah), then help your fellow countrymen, fellow Muslims ! Free them from the ignorance blinded by the "rebelled angels" !!!

First email them the links of the hymn, and if they too agree to the sentiments in the songs, email more material to them. All my material are COPYRIGHT FREE ! (You may reprint, publish, translate, or even make CDROM ..... without asking me questions, as long as you do what is right in the sight of LORD, LORD being the judge.) Also, all material in my Homepage are COPYRIGHT FREE TOO !

You may email them "text", (copy and paste)

Jesus died at the age of 33, a tragic death on the cross.

Jesus faced persecution, many people sought to destroy him, 
and finally they succeeded and nailed him to the cross. 

Jesus left behind an example, that people should only do what
is right in the sight of GOD, even at the peril of death. 

Click to know about, 

    Main Teachings of Jesus
        http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/jesus.htm

    Other Teachings of Jesus
        http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/ModelJesus1.htm

    Law of GOD and His Commandments
        http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/true.htm

    Hymn
        http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/hymn.htm


GOD resurrected Jesus and Jesus is now in heaven. 

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The world is in great troubles now, let us join in the effort to save souls !

Wu Siu Yan


Allah's 10 commandments

  1. You shall have no other gods before me.

  2. You shall not make yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the LORD your GOD am a jealous GOD, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.

  3. You shall not take the name of the LORD your GOD in vain; for the LORD will not hold him quiltless who takes his name in vain.

  4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labour, and do all your work; but the seventh day is a sabbath to the LORD your GOD; in it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your manservant, or your maidservant, or your cattle, or the sojourner who is within your gates; for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day; therefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day and hallowed it.

  5. Honour your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land which the LORD your GOD gives you.

  6. You shall not kill.

  7. You shall not commit adultery.

  8. You shall not steal.

  9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour.

  10. You shall not covet your neighbour's house; you shall not covet your neighbour's wife, or his manservant, or his maidservant, or his ox, or his ass, or anything, that is your neighbour's.

Here are some other Laws and Commandments of LORD ( = ALLAH),

http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/true.htm

Wu Siu Yan


Who are the "rebelled angels" that dictated the Quran through Mohammed ?

> Rebelled Angels: Who are these? Wu Siu Yan never answered my question, said he was hacked!!

Dear ....,

You MUST read through all the books I cited in

http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/islam.htm
  1. Bible (must have read it at twice 2 times)

  2. Book of Enoch 1

  3. Book of Enoch 2

  4. .....

and you MUST have walked the teachings of LORD and of Jesus for many years before the question of "We" may be answered.

I wrote the above webpage (islam.htm) mainly for people who wish to wash the feet of other people, like Jesus who washed the feet of his 12 disciples before being crucified, and who have walked the teachings of LORD and of Jesus for years.

IS IT A TIME TO DISCUSS PHILOSOPHICAL THINGS WHEN PEOPLE IN AFGHANISTAN ARE DYING EVERY DAY, AND PEOPLE HAVE TO WALK MANY MANY MILES WITHOUT FOOD AND WATER, WITH THEIR CHILDREN, TO REFUGEE CAMPS IN PAKISTAN ? AND PEOPLE IN PALESTINE AND ISRAEL ARE DYING EVERYDAY BECAUSE OF ENMITY ?

If after listening to the hymns and after reading the webpages of

  1. Jesus' Sermon on the Mount,

  2. Other Teachings of Jesus

  3. Law of GOD and His Commandments,

you are convinced that I am not cheating you, then forget the "We", and get the Muslims listen to the Hymn, and get them know the teachings of LORD and of Jesus, fast !

Wu Siu Yan

(P.S. All material in my Homepage are COPYRIGHT FREE !)
("We" in Quran is DEFINITELY not ALLAH, the almighty GOD.)


Joseph and his master's wife

In Quran, it is repeated many times the "incident of Joseph and his master's wife".

The following is an account by MOSES, and is recorded in the First Book of Moses, commonly called "Genesis". I reproduce it below,

[Genesis Chapter 39]

Now Joseph was taken down to Egypt, and Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh, the captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him from the Ishmaelites who had brought him down there.

The LORD was with Joseph, and he became a successful man; and he was in the house of his master the Egyptian, and his master saw that the LORD was with him, and that the LORD caused all that he did to prosper in his hands. So Joseph found favour in his sight and attended him, and he made him overseer of his house and put him in charge of all that he had.

From the time that he made him overseer in his house and over all that he had the LORD blessed the Egyptian's house for Joseph's sake; the blessing of the LORD was upon all that he had, in house and field. So he left all that he had in Joseph's charge; and having him he had no concern for anything but the food which he ate.

Now Joseph was handsome and good-looking. And after a time his master's wife cast her eyes upon Joseph, and said, "Lie with me." But he refused and said to his master's wife, "Lo, having me my master has no concern about anything in the house, and he has put everything that he has in my hand; he is not greater in this house than I am; nor has he kept back anything from me except yourself, because you are his wife; how then can I do this great wickedness, and sin against GOD?" And although she spoke to Joseph day after day, he would not listen to her, to lie with her or to be with her.

But one day, when he went into the house to do his work and none of the men of the house was there in the house, she caught him by his garment, saying, "Lie with me." But he left his garment in her hand, and fled and got out of the house. And when she saw that he had left his garment in her hand, and had fled out of the house, she called to the men of her household and said to them, "See, he has brought among us a Hebrew to insult us; he came in to me and to lie with me, and I cried out with a loud voice; and when he heard that I lifted up my voice and cried, he left his garment with me, and fled and got out of the house." Then she laid up his garment by her until his master came home, and she told him the same story, saying, "The Hebrew servant, whom you have brought among us, came in to me to insult me; but as soon as I lifted up my voice and cried, he left his garment with me, and fled out of the house."

When his master heard the words which his wife spoke to him, "This is the way your servant treated me," his anger was kindled. And Joseph's master took him and put him into the prison, the place where the king's prisoners were confined, and he was there in prison.

But the LORD was with Joseph and showed him steadfast love, and gave him favour in the sight of the keeper of the prison. And the keeper of the prison committed to Joseph's care all the prisoners who were in the prison; and whatever was done there, he was the doer of it; the keeper of the prison paid no heed to anything that was in Joseph's care, because the LORD was with him; and whatever he did, the LORD made it prosper.

For those familiar with Quran, judge for yourself ! Either you believe Moses' own words or you believe "we" in Quran. Either Moses was lying, or "We" in Quran was lying.

As for myself, I believe Moses' own words in Geneses (First Book of Moses, or Torah).

Not only so, Moses' account of his dealing with Pharaoh in Exodus is different from that from "we" in Quran. (Note : Moses's account of his dealing with Pharaoh, in his own words, is recorded in Exodus, Old Testament, or the Second Book of Moses, of Torah.)

Wu Siu Yan.


Subject: Re: Joseph and his master's wife (Moses and Pharaoh)

Dear ....",

> Can you quickly tell us how Moses dealt with Pharoah?

Moses' description may be found in Exodus Chapters 1 to 12. There are 12 chapters describing the incident, in Moses' own words. Kindly study it.

The online link to Exodus is

http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Exodus/index.html

I am sorry that I cannot condense 12 chapters into a few paragraphs.

I just cannot understand, why Muslims would not believe Moses' own words but believe "We". It was Moses who dealt with Pharaoh, not Mohammed nor "We".

Wu Siu Yan.


Subject: Re: The Unique Role of Jesus On Planet Earth

[soul]

First of all, Wu Siu Yan You can stop reffering to the "we" in the Quran. To Muslims, it is God who wrote it. When you're not respectful to others, you won't get respect back. Bad karma you know. Heard it's bad for your health.

[Wu]

I am telling the truth. I even know the names of those angels. If you care to walk all the Teachings of LORD and of Jesus, and care to read ALL the books I cited in
http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/islam.htm

and if you would be willing to act like Jesus, who is GOD condescending to Earth, and who washed the feet of his disciples and other people, unlike the "We" who tell every believer to bow down to him with face to the Earth several times a day (proudness Vs. humbleness), you will know the names of those angels too. They are NOT Gabriel, nor Michael, nor LORD.

Now that you have read the whole Quran, would you still claim "We" is LORD? singular and not plural, and not a group of "angels"? LORD's followers, if they choose to speak and not remain silent, must speak what is in their heart and not lie. LORD demands "honesty and uprightness" in us. A liar will not enter Paradise, but will enter hell.

[soul]

What Jesus (as) taught was correct. The Quran doesn't go against him (as) but against what is believed about him.

[Wu]

Correct is one thing, to know the teachings of Jesus is another thing. Do you know ALL the teachings of Jesus ? Are you willing to walk Jesus' teachings, holding fast his teachings onto death for your whole life ? and bear a cross like Jesus every day ? And holding fast onto death the teachings of LORD (i.e. in those 'Law and Commandments of LORD' - please click the link.) too ?

[soul]

But you said that Jesus (as) said that we can't enter Heaven without becoming like the children. So, that means if we become Christian/children, then we will all be sons and daughters of God.

[Wu]

No, "return and become like child, humble like a child" means we change our heart back to when we were a small child, not "christian children". Moreover, it teaches us to be humble. If you look at small children, they wouldn't be proud and they wouldn't think of evil things. Our heart should be "pure/clean" like them, should be "humble" like them.

[soul]

Did Jesus tell his followers to listen to hymns? Just a quick question.

[Wu]

Those hymns were taught to Chinese Christians by Western Missionaries. The hymns were written by Jesus' followers (Christians) hundreds of years ago. Just by listening to the songs, we can get some idea in their hearts, because Music conveys sentiment much better than words. Music is called "the universal language of all human beings" by some people. Therefore I wish you (and other Muslims) to listen to them to get an idea of their sentiments. If you think the Christians were not misled by Jesus (whom we regard as Condescension of GOD, not only as "son of GOD", but in a sense, GOD coming down from Heaven to Earth to become a human to teach us. We need sons and daughters because we will die one day, and sons/daughters are to perpetuate the human race. GOD will never die, why needs He a son? It is He who came down to earth (He created a duplicate). But if you look at people, some people have son wholly like himself ! All human teachings contain errors (95% correct, 5% wrong is NOT acceptable), but LORD's teachings is 100% correct. Use your conscience to judge if Jesus' teachings are 100% correct.

It is not the Christians (I mean "true Christians", those who walk Jesus' and LORD's teachings) who are misled by Jesus, it is the Moslems who are misled by Mohammed. Help save them ! People are dying everyday now !

Wu Siu Yan

(P.S. I don't know how to play piano, and it was with some difficulties that I played those hymns in a Chinese Hymn Book. I hope one day, some people who can play can record the hymns for me in midi form. In the link "hymn.htm" below, I played only some 31 songs, but there are many many other songs in our Hymn Book, and I have difficulties in playing them.)


Subject: Re: Have you read the Quran from cover to cover?

[Wu]

Have you read the Quran from cover to cover?

[Soul]

I have in Arabic.

[Wu]

Very Good. Your previous posting said that you have only read some books of Bible. I think you should at least read ALL "Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy" - because they are the 5 books of Moses! The Torah.

Wu Siu Yan

Link to Moses' 5 books

http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Genesis/index.html
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Exodus/index.html
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Leviticus/index.html
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Numbers/index.html
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Deuteronomy/index.html

Teachings in Quran are not 100% correct

[soul]

> sywu, 
> Muslims do not believe you are mislead by Jesus (as).
> You say you've read the Quran, did you find anything
> against him there? Muslims love and respect him as we
> do all the Prophets. We believe you are misleading
> yourself.

[Wu]

Teachings in Quran are NOT 100% correct, e.g. those laws about adultery (Christian MUST never commit adultery, LORD :"Both the adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death". Moreover, Christian must not divorce and then remarry - that counts the same as adultery.)

Those things about "oath" in Quran are wrong. Christian MUST be 100% honest and upright. A liar or one who is not UPRIGHT, will NEVER ENTER PARADISE, but will enter hell. "Oath" is not acceptable to LORD, LORD demands us speak the truth at all times.

If you eat food that is 95% nutritious, but contain 5% poison, you will die.

In the Last day, before the Judgement Seat of LORD, the teachings of Jesus and of LORD will be the plummet line, we must measure up to those teachings in our everyday conduct. Quran contains about 5% of the teachings of LORD and of Jesus (e.g. no idol; one LORD; kind to strangers; graciousness to poor/needy/orphan/widow, i.e. charity; fair and just dealings ... etc. They are only about 5% of the teachings of LORD and of Jesus.) Muslims are POORLY EDUCATED as to the teachings of LORD and of Jesus.

Wu Siu Yan


Do you think you (Wu Siu Yan) are perfect?

[John]

I gather from this that you believe perfection is necessary for salvation. And since you evidently think that you are going to heaven, do you think therefore that you are perfect?

[Wu]

No, I mean we should remember constantly "one day we will stand before the Judgement Seat of LORD, and we will have to give account of what we do in this life". And LORD knows everything we do and what we think, and it is He who judges, and He judges according to His Laws and the teachings of Jesus (Jesus' words will be our judge in the Last Day).

I don't mean I will pass the Judgement in the Last Day. I am fallible (i.e. liable to fall) as everyone else, and I have to exercise care every day, lest I fall.

Jesus : "Watch and pray that you may not enter into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak." - I remember this warning firmly in my heart. Temptations in this world come everyday - money, power, fame, life of enemy, dishonesty, adultery, pride, ..... all sorts of temptations to sin come everyday.

Wu Siu Yan


I love the Muslims

[John]

>I don't mean I will pass the Judgement in the Last Day. I am fallible (i.e. liable to fall) as everyone else, and I have to exercise care every day, lest I fall.

I am very glad to hear you say that, since up till now your posts struck me as coming from a self-righteous idiot too willing to condemn the Muslims and too proud of his own "knowledge." I am glad to learn that I was mistaken and freely apologize for having thought that of you.

[Wu]

I love the Muslims ! If you have read my previous post "Bin Laden the Master Mind ? How to arrive at the truth", I defended Bin Laden.

I don't think he is the mastermind, I think the Hitlers, the Musolinis, the Tojos were behind all this (the co-ordinated clockwork precision attacks need lot of planning and coordination and months of preparation, that it can hardly go undetected, given our present state of computer technology. Moreover, I think bin Laden is too good a Muslim to be one mass-innocent-people-killer).

I am very sorry to know that the people in Afghanistan are suffering now (also people in Pakistan are affected), also sorry to know that the Muslims in Palestine are suffering now.

I began to love the Muslims many years ago when I saw a film about Muslims in Northern China (there are many Muslim Chinese living in Northern China, feel free to visit them as tourists!), and I think they are very good people (they are the mis-led sheep, converted to Christianity by the disciples of Jesus, but misled by Mohammed in the 600's, I think).

I think the Muslims are too under-educated in the teachings of LORD and of Jesus, and do not know that Jesus is GOD condescending to Earth in human form, therefore teachings of Jesus are very very valuable. ("We" in Quran told Muslims : "LORD has no son" and Jesus was human, just another messenger. "We" taught none of the teachings of Jesus in Quran.)

Wu Siu Yan

(P.S. I agree with what you said, it is the doers of Words that are saved, therefore, whether he be a Muslim, Buddhist, Christian, Catholic, or one who has never heard of Jesus .... is immaterial. My great grandma had never heard of Jesus, yet the precepts she taught my mother were precisely the precepts of Jesus; Jesus was the shepherd of my great grandma too, and she didn't know, though she knew there is a "High King in Heaven", which is the name we Chinese use for LORD. For those curious,

The Teachings of My Great Grandma
http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/grandma.htm

)


Main Teachings of Jesus

http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/jesus.htm

Other Teachings of Jesus

http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/ModelJesus1.htm

Law of GOD and His Commandments

http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/true.htm

Hymn

http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/hymn.htm

Teachings of Jesus from Jesus' disciples

http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Matthew/index.html
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Luke/index.html
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/John/index.html

Teachings of Jesus as recorded by Jesus' disciples

Dear friends,

The followings are books written by disciples of Jesus (Matthew, Luke, John). They contain ALL the teachings of Jesus as well as the acts/doings of Jesus. Kindly read them,

http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Matthew/index.html
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Luke/index.html
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/John/index.html

Regards,

Wu Siu Yan


Five Books of Moses (Torah) "Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers"

http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Genesis/index.html
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Exodus/index.html
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Leviticus/index.html
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Numbers/index.html
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Deuteronomy/index.html

Main Teachings of Jesus

http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/jesus.htm

Other Teachings of Jesus

http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/ModelJesus1.htm

Law of GOD and His Commandments

http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/true.htm

Hymn

http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/hymn.htm

Moses' Account of the Flood

The bottom part of this post is Moses' writing about the flood : only Noah, his three sons (Shem, Ham, Japheth), together with their wives (4 + 4 = 8 persons) escaped death.

This is in direct contradiction to what "We" in Quran said.

When two persons are speaking 2 different versions of the same event. Either you think one is honest and the other is lying.

Muslim friends, judge for yourself who was giving the more accurate record. Please note that Moses was born some thousands of years BEFORE Jesus, and Mohammed was born some 600 years AFTER Jesus. Without the Bible commonly available in the 600's, who was in a position to discover that Mohammed was telling contradictory things ?

Read the Bible. When you read the Bible, you will have a very pleasant feeling, because they were written by HUMBLE men inspired by the Spirit of TRUTH ( = Holy Spirit).

Try to read the Quran, your spirit will surely be disturbed, because it was written by a man inspired by PROUD SPIRITS OF THOSE ANGELS WHO REBELLED LORD.

Wu Siu Yan

(P.S. Bible has many authors, whereas Quran has 1 author - Mohammed)


MOSES' WRITING ABOUT THE FLOOD (Genesis Chapters 6 to 9)

6:1 And after a time, when men were increasing on the earth, and had daughters,

6:2 The sons of God saw that the daughters of men were fair; and they took wives for themselves from those who were pleasing to them.

6:3 And the Lord said, My spirit will not be in man for ever, for he is only flesh; so the days of his life will be a hundred and twenty years.

6:4 There were men of great strength and size on the earth in those days; and after that, when the sons of God had connection with the daughters of men, they gave birth to children: these were the great men of old days, the men of great name.

6:5 And the Lord saw that the sin of man was great on the earth, and that all the thoughts of his heart were evil.

6:6 And the Lord had sorrow because he had made man on the earth, and grief was in his heart.

6:7 And the Lord said, I will take away man, whom I have made, from the face of the earth, even man and beast and that which goes on the earth and every bird of the air; for I have sorrow for having made them.

6:8 But Noah had grace in the eyes of God.

6:9 These are the generations of Noah. Noah was an upright man and without sin in his generation: he went in the ways of God.

6:10 And Noah had three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

6:11 And the earth was evil in God's eyes and full of violent ways.

6:12 And God, looking on the earth, saw that it was evil: for the way of all flesh had become evil on the earth.

6:13 And God said to Noah, The end of all flesh has come; the earth is full of their violent doings, and now I will put an end to them with the earth.

6:14 Make for yourself an ark of gopher wood with rooms in it, and make it safe from the water inside and out.

6:15 And this is the way you are to make it: it is to be three hundred cubits long, fifty cubits wide, and thirty cubits high.

6:16 You are to put a window in the ark, a cubit from the roof, and a door in the side of it, and you are to make it with a lower and second and third floors.

6:17 For truly, I will send a great flow of waters over the earth, for the destruction from under the heaven of all flesh in which is the breath of life; everything on the earth will come to an end.

6:18 But with you I will make an agreement; and you will come into the ark, you and your sons and your wife and your sons' wives with you.

6:19 And you will take with you into the ark two of every sort of living thing, and keep them safe with you; they will be male and female.

6:20 Two of every sort of bird and cattle and of every sort of living thing which goes on the earth will you take with you to keep them from destruction.

6:21 And make a store of every sort of food for yourself and them.

6:22 And all these things Noah did; as God said, so he did.

7:1 And the Lord said to Noah, Take all your family and go into the ark, for you only in this generation have I seen to be upright.

7:2 Of every clean beast you will take seven males and seven females, and of the beasts which are not clean, two, the male and his female;

7:3 And of the birds of the air, seven males and seven females, so that their seed may still be living on the face of the earth.

7:4 For after seven days I will send rain on the earth for forty days and forty nights, for the destruction of every living thing which I have made on the face of the earth.

7:5 And Noah did everything which the Lord said he was to do.

7:6 And Noah was six hundred years old when the waters came flowing over all the earth.

7:7 And Noah, with his sons and his wife and his sons' wives, went into the ark because of the flowing of the waters.

7:8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts which are not clean, and of birds, and of everything which goes on the earth,

7:9 In twos, male and female, they went into the ark with Noah, as God had said.

7:10 And after the seven days, the waters came over all the earth.

7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, all the fountains of the great deep came bursting through, and the windows of heaven were open;

7:12 And rain came down on the earth for forty days and forty nights.

7:13 On the same day Noah, with Shem, Ham, and Japheth, his sons, and his wife and his sons' wives, went into the ark;

7:14 And with them, every sort of beast and cattle, and every sort of thing which goes on the earth, and every sort of bird.

7:15 They went with Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh in which is the breath of life.

7:16 Male and female of all flesh went in, as God had said, and the ark was shut by the Lord.

7:17 And for forty days the waters were over all the earth; and the waters were increased so that the ark was lifted up high over the earth.

7:18 And the waters overcame everything and were increased greatly on the earth, and the ark was resting on the face of the waters.

7:19 And the waters overcame everything on the earth; and all the mountains under heaven were covered.

7:20 The waters went fifteen cubits higher, till all the mountains were covered.

7:21 And destruction came on every living thing moving on the earth, birds and cattle and beasts and everything which went on the earth, and every man.

7:22 Everything on the dry land, in which was the breath of life, came to its end.

7:23 Every living thing on the face of all the earth, man and cattle and things moving on the face of the earth, and birds of the air, came to destruction: only Noah and those who were with him in the ark, were kept from death.

7:24 And the waters were over the earth a hundred and fifty days.

8:1 And God kept Noah in mind, and all the living things and the cattle which were with him in the ark: and God sent a wind over the earth, and the waters went down.

8:2 And the fountains of the deep and the windows of heaven were shut, and the rain from heaven was stopped.

8:3 And the waters went slowly back from the earth, and at the end of a hundred and fifty days the waters were lower.

8:4 And on the seventeenth day of the seventh month the ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat.

8:5 And still the waters went on falling, till on the first day of the tenth month the tops of the mountains were seen.

8:6 Then, after forty days, through the open window of the ark which he had made,

8:7 Noah sent out a raven, which went this way and that till the waters were gone from the earth.

8:8 And he sent out a dove, to see if the waters had gone from the face of the earth;

8:9 But the dove saw no resting-place for her foot, and came back to the ark, for the waters were still over all the earth; and he put out his hand, and took her into the ark.

8:10 And after waiting another seven days, he sent the dove out again;

8:11 And the dove came back at evening, and in her mouth was an olive-leaf broken off: so Noah was certain that the waters had gone down on the earth.

8:12 And after seven days more, he sent the dove out again, but she did not come back to him.

8:13 And in the six hundred and first year, on the first day of the first month, the waters were dry on the earth: and Noah took the cover off the ark and saw that the face of the earth was dry.

8:14 And on the twenty-seventh day of the second month the earth was dry.

8:15 And God said to Noah,

8:16 Go out of the ark, you and your wife and your sons and your sons' wives.

8:17 Take out with you every living thing which is with you, birds and cattle and everything which goes on the earth, so that they may have offspring and be fertile and be increased on the earth.

8:18 And Noah went out with his sons and his wife and his sons' wives;

8:19 And every beast and bird and every living thing of every sort which goes on the earth, went out of the ark.

8:20 And Noah made an altar to the Lord, and from every clean beast and bird he made burned offerings on the altar.

8:21 And when the sweet smell came up to the Lord, he said in his heart, I will not again put a curse on the earth because of man, for the thoughts of man's heart are evil from his earliest days; never again will I send destruction on all living things as I have done.

8:22 While the earth goes on, seed time and the getting in of the grain, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, will not come to an end.

9:1 And God gave his blessing to Noah and his sons, and said, Be fertile, and have increase, and make the earth full.

9:2 And the fear of you will be strong in every beast of the earth and every bird of the air; everything which goes on the land, and all the fishes of the sea, are given into your hands.

9:3 Every living and moving thing will be food for you; I give them all to you as before I gave you all green things.

9:4 But flesh with the life-blood in it you may not take for food.

9:5 And for your blood, which is your life, will I take payment; from every beast I will take it, and from every man will I take payment for the blood of his brother-man.

9:6 Whoever takes a man's life, by man will his life be taken; because God made man in his image.

9:7 And now, be fertile and have increase; have offspring on the earth and become great in number.

9:8 And God said to Noah and to his sons,

9:9 Truly, I will make my agreement with you and with your seed after you,

9:10 And with every living thing with you, all birds and cattle and every beast of the earth which comes out of the ark with you.

9:11 And I will make my agreement with you; never again will all flesh be cut off by the waters; never again will the waters come over all the earth for its destruction.

9:12 And God said, This is the sign of the agreement which I make between me and you and every living thing with you, for all future generations:

9:13 I will put my bow in the cloud and it will be for a sign of the agreement between me and the earth.

9:14 And whenever I make a cloud come over the earth, the bow will be seen in the cloud,

9:15 And I will keep in mind the agreement between me and you and every living thing; and never again will there be a great flow of waters causing destruction to all flesh.

9:16 And the bow will be in the cloud, and looking on it, I will keep in mind the eternal agreement between God and every living thing on the earth.

9:17 And God said to Noah, This is the sign of the agreement which I have made between me and all flesh on the earth.

9:18 And the sons of Noah who went out of the ark were Shem, Ham, and Japheth; and Ham is the father of Canaan.

9:19 These three were the sons of Noah and from them all the earth was peopled.

9:20 In those days Noah became a farmer, and he made a vine-garden.

9:21 And he took of the wine of it and was overcome by drink; and he was uncovered in his tent.

9:22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw his father unclothed, and gave news of it to his two brothers outside.

9:23 And Shem and Japheth took a robe, and putting it on their backs went in with their faces turned away, and put it over their father so that they might not see him unclothed.

9:24 And, awaking from his wine, Noah saw what his youngest son had done to him, and he said,

9:25 Cursed be Canaan; let him be a servant of servants to his brothers.

9:26 And he said, Praise to the Lord, the God of Shem; let Canaan be his servant.

9:27 May God make Japheth great, and let his living-place be in the tents of Shem, and let Canaan be his servant.

9:28 And Noah went on living three hundred and fifty years after the great flow of waters;

9:29 all the years of his life were nine hundred and fifty: and he came to his end.



There will be no judgement if there is no free will

Just as we all have free will, and can choose to do a good thing or a bad thing, so can the angels.

In the Last Day, both human and angels have to stand for Judgement. Everything that has free will will stand for Judgement.

Wu Siu Yan


Humble Vs. Proud

Jesus and LORD taught us to be humble as a child, and not proud.

Jesus : whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted. [Mt 23:12]

[Luke 14:7-11] Now he (Jesus) told a parable to those who were invited, when he marked how they chose the places of honour, saying to them, "When you are invited by any one to a marriage feast, do not sit down in a place of honour, lest a more eminent man than you be invited by him; and he who invited you both will come, and say to you, 'Give place to this man,' and then you will begin with shame to take the lowest place. But when you are invited, go and sit in the lowest place, so that when your host comes he may say to you, 'Friend, go up higher'; then you will be honoured in the presence of all who sit at table with you. For every one who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.

Jesus: Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Whoever humbles himself like this child, he is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. [Mt 18:3-4]

LORD's word to Job : "Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low; and tread down the wicked where they stand. Hide them all in the dust together; bind their faces in the world below. Then will I also acknowledge to you, that your own right hand can give you victory. ..." [Job 40:11-14]

LORD to Solomon : "I have heard your prayer, and have chosen this place for myself as a house of sacrifice. When I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or command the locust to devour the land, or send pestilence among my people, if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land. .... " [2 Chron 7:12-14]

LORD: "Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy each to his brother, do not oppress the widow, the fatherless, the sojourner, or the poor; and let none of you devise evil against his brother in your heart." [Zech 7:9-10]

All our "hardware" and "software" are designed and given to us by LORD, then why should we exalt in our "talents" ? or why should we be ashamed that we are inferior to others ? (He/She may have prayed to LORD more, and do things that are right in the sight of LORD, that LORD is pleased with him/her that LORD gave him/her more "freewares/softwares". If we pray and ask LORD, and do things right in the sight of LORD, LORD will give us "freeware/software" too!)

Which is right - proud or humble ? Would you like to befriend with one who is proud ? or one who is humble ?

"Proud" is the seed that will grow into much more serious sins (because we will not be kind to others then), and makes us break LORD's Laws , and eventually brings us much punishment and sorrows. Satan rebelled LORD because of proudness.

If we do Jesus' teachings :

Jesus : Come to me, all who labour and are heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me; for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. [Mt 11:28-30]

we will find rest for our soul too.

Wu Siu Yan


A reply when I was accused of making derogatory remarks about Islam

Dear John,

I don't mean to make derogatory remarks about Islam. After all these postings, and all my efforts, would you think I am one who would despise Islam ?

Kindly read my previous post : (post no 706)

"The friend who never fails you"

Or

http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/trustedfriend.htm

You will understand why I made the remark :

"With the present state of ignorance (Quran contains a small percentage of the Teachings of LORD and of Jesus), Muslims will NEVER make advancement ahead."
in "Second Appeal to All Muslims", because I consider "honesty and uprightness, Yes be Yes and No be No" be the first and fundamental requirement in understanding TRUTH. And in Quran, it advocates "oath" which I never accept. "Speak the truth at all times, speak out of one's heart" is what I support.

Wu Siu Yan


Two kinds of attitudes

In the 18th Century, Japan was invaded by the Western powers. Japan saw its inabilities to resist the "gun ships" and their fire-power, Japan immediately sought remedies. It recruited famous scholars from the West to teach them, (e.g. Mr. Hornby to teach them English, and Britons and Germans to teach them ship-building, ... see my webpage

http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/Hornby.htm

) In a very short time, Japan built up its navy, and was able to defeat even the Russians. Today, Japan is highly technogically advanced.

China was invaded by the foreign powers too, and Chinese knew its limitations in their hearts. Chinese tried to catch up desperately. I have seen some Chinese research workers, they know many languages and are able to read academic journals of many countries. Now China is able to send satellites into space, to develop nuclear bombs, ....

Now my observation is :

If the following things, which were invented all by Westerners, be taken away from the Islamic countries,

  1. Steam Engine (and trains), and Internal-combustion-engines (and cars)
  2. Electricity, a-c generators
  3. Telegraph, and telephone
  4. Aeroplane
  5. Microprocessors, computers,
  6. Television
  7. ....

would the Muslim countries now be different from that in the 600's ?

The main reason for such state of affairs is that Quran taught them "all previous scriptures contain errors" and "Quran is final, Mohammed the last prophet", making Quran the ONLY correct book in all human history. (even when great contradictions between its sayings and Moses are there, e.g. Joseph and his master's wife, the dealings of Moses with Pharaoh, the Laws of LORD given through Moses, ...)

When person A speaks one thing, and person B speaks another, they cannot both be right. But all muslims dare not question "Quran", they dare not say "Moses is more correct because Moses dealt with Pharaoh!".

Therefore I made the remarks :

"With the present state of ignorance (Quran contains a small percentage of the Teachings of LORD and of Jesus), Muslims will NEVER make advancement ahead."

Only persons with the attitudes "WHAT IS RIGHT AND NOT WHO IS RIGHT, TRUTH AND TRUTH ONLY, HONESTY, UPRIGHTNESS, ... " would be guided by LORD to greatter things.

I stand to be contradicted, and stand to be shown wrong.

Wu Siu Yan.


Re: The World and the Hereafter

Wu Siu Yan


Homosexuality is punishable by death according to LORD's Laws

LORD : "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them." [Lev 20:13]

LORD : "Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom : she and her daughers had pride, surfeit of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy. They were haughty, and did abominable things before me; therefore I removed them, when I saw it." [Eze 16:49-50]

LORD rules the universe with His Laws, and He enforces His Laws with His angels. His rule is simple,

KEEP THE LAW => BLESSING;

BREAK THE LAW => CURSE.

But LORD gives us a chance to repent,

LORD : "But if a wicked man turns away from all his sins which he has committed and keeps all my statutes and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. None of the transgressions which he has committed shall be remembered against him; for the righteousness which he has done he shall live. Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, says the LORD GOD, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live ?" [Eze 18:21-23]

But if we persistently break LORD's Laws, and do not repent, even after repeated admonitions and warnings, LORD will do as he has said in [Lev 26], curse us sorely even onto killing us.

Wu Siu Yan


"Wealth" and "Law about Inheritance" in Bible

Jesus : "No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money." [Matthew 6:24]

Jesus : "Judge not and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven; give, and it will be given to you; good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For the measure you give will be the measure you get back." [Luke 6:37-38]

Jesus : "Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust consume and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust consumes and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." [Matthew 6:19-21]

LORD : And if your brother becomes poor, and cannot maintain himself with you, you shall maintain him, as a stranger and a sojourner he shall live with you. Take no interest from him or increase, but fear your God; that your brother may live beside you. You shall not lend him your money at interest, nor give him your food for profit. [Leviticus 25:35-37]

Jesus : When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, and he will place the sheep at his right hand, but the goats at the left. Then the King will say to those at the right hand, 'Come, O blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.' Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see thee hungry and feed thee, or thirsty and give thee drink? And when did we see thee a stranger and welcome thee, or naked and clothe thee? And when did we see thee sick or in prison and visit thee? And the King will answer them, 'Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.' Then he will say to those at his left hand, 'Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you not visit me.' Then they also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see thee hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to thee?' Then he will answer them, 'Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me.' And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life. [Matthew 25:31-46]

LORD : "If a man dies, and has no son, then you shall cause his inheritance to pass to his daughter. And if he has no daughter, then you shall give his inheritance to his brothers. And if he has no brothers, then you shall give his inheritance to his father's brothers. And if his father has no brothers, then you shall give his inheritance to his kinsman that is next to him of his family, and he shall possess it." [Numbers 27:8-11]

Christians and Muslims have the same view towards life : our life here is temporal, a probation period to see if we are qualified for the hereafter (righteous person will enter the hereafter). Therefore we should have proper attitude towards our possessions (land, money, possession, ...), because we cannot have them forever! We should be generous in helping those in need !

Inheritance Law in Bible is few, and as far as I can remember, is the above one in [Numbers 27:8-11] and [Numbers 36:5-9] (Inheritance Laws in Quran is complicated!)

Moreover, LORD taught us not to add to His Laws, nor take away from His Laws.

Once we have mastered the principle of justice and fairness, we should be able to distinguish what is just in different situations (Each case decided on its individual merits). This is in direct contrast to the "case laws" and "statutory Laws", where one has to study volumes upon volumes of Law Books and "cases", and even so, justice could not be obtained generally in the courts, for the lawyers are skilful in their trade, and would "cross" you and would find "cases" to escape justice. (I once heard someone says, "rule by lawyers and not rule of Law".)

Wu Siu Yan
13th November, 2001


ONE LAW FOR ALL

LORD to the Israelites : "You shall not oppress a stranger; you know the heart of a stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt." [Exodus 23:9]

LORD: "The stranger who sojourns with you shall be to you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself." [Leviticus 19:34]

LORD : "There shall be one law for the native and for the stranger who sojourns among you." [Exodus 12:49]

"killing, adultery, theft, false witnessing, oppressing the orphan/widow/weak, slanders, .... " are acts breaking LORD's Laws.

Therefore if a person does not break LORD's Laws, he/she should never be punished, whether he/she be a Christian, Catholic, Muslim, Atheist, ....

If he/she breaks the Law, then no matter what religion he/she claims to have, be he/she a Christian, Catholic, Muslim, Atheist, .... he/she should be punished justly according to the Law.

Though I am a Christian, I see much good in other religions, e.g. the main precept of Buddhism "loving kindness" is a Godly precept, their idea of "if you do something evil, you will reap the consequence of it (cause-effect)" is also true, as are many of their precepts.

The precepts of Islam, "kind to strangers, graciousness to the poor/needy/orphan/widow, fair and just dealings, ... " are also godly precepts.

Therefore one mustn't punish another just because he is of certain religious group.

Wu Siu Yan
14th November, 2001

(P.S. Aung San Suu Kyi, the Burmese political activist, has written a book "Freedom From Fear", published by "Penguin Books", one may wonder how much Buddhist precepts agree with those of Christians and Muslims!)


Question Allah ? Sue Allah in court ?

In the Book of Job (Old Testament), Job was severely afflicted by LORD. He lost all his possessions, and his children were all killed. He even had severe sickness in his body, yet he had been a righteous man all his life.

Job wanted to go to court with LORD, because he thought LORD wronged him,

Job : " ... For he is not a man, as I am, that I might answer him, that we should come to trial together. There is no umpire between us who might lay his hand upon us both." [Job 9:32-33]

Job : "I will say to GOD, Do not condemn me; let me know why thou dost contend against me. Does it seem good to thee to oppress, to despise the work of thy hands... " [Job 10:2-3]

Job : "Today also my complaint is bitter, his hand is heavy in spite of my groaning. Oh, that I knew where I might find him, that I might come even to his seat! I would lay my case before him and fill my mouth with arguments. I would learn what he would answer me, and understand what he would say to me. Would he contend with me in the greatness of his power? No; he would give heed to me. There an upright man could reason with him, and I should be acquitted for ever by my judge. Behold, I go forward, but he is not there; and backward, but I cannot perceive him; on the left hand I seek him, but I cannot behold him; I turn to the right hand, but I cannot see him. .... " [Job 23:1-9]

Job's three friends said that LORD cannot be in the wrong, it must be that either he himself or his children had sinned against LORD that LORD brought such disaster upon him.

Do you think LORD would punish Job for his bold words ? Do you think LORD would approve the behaviour of Job's three friends ?

Find out the answer yourself in [Job 42]!

Wu Siu Yan


FEMALE, MALE

LORD taught us that a woman should rest 40 days after giving birth to a boy, but 80 days after giving birth to a girl,

LORD : "If a woman conceives, and bears a male child, then she shall be unclean seven days; as at the time of her menstruation, she shall be unclean. And on the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. Then she shall continue for thirty-three days in the blood of her purifying; she shall not touch any hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying are completed. But if she bears a female child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her menstruation; and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying for sixty-six days." [Leviticus 12:2-5]

Therefore the "hardware and software" of female is designed differently from that of male.

Among all the "Judges" who ruled Israel before King Saul, only one was female, all the rest were male. [Judges 4]

When foreign manufacturers came to Hong Kong to set up factories, they would hire, mostly, female to work in their assembly lines, and not male.

But female is not despised by LORD, there is even the teachings of one female, [Proverbs 31], as follows,

The words of Lemuel, king of Massa, which his mother taught him :

"What, my son? What, son of my womb? What, son of my vows?

Give not your strength to women, your ways to those who destroy kings.

It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine, or for rulers to desire strong drink; lest they drink and forget what has been decreed, and pervert the right of all the afflicted.

Give strong drink to him who is perishing, and wine to those in bitter distress; let them drink and forget their poverty, and remember their misery no more.

Open your mouth for the dumb, for the rights of all who are left desolate.

Open your mouth, judge righteously, maintain the rights of the poor and needy.

A good wife who can find? She is far more precious than jewels.

The heart of her husband trusts in her, and he will have no lack of gain.

She does him good, and not harm, all the days of her life.

She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands.

She is like the ships of the merchant, she brings her food from afar.

She rises while it is yet night and provides food for her household and tasks for her maidens.

She considers a field and buys it; with the fruit of her hands she plants a vineyard.

She girds her loins with strength and makes her arms strong.

She perceives that her merchandize is profitable.

Her lamp does not go out at night.

She puts her hands to the distaff, and her hands hold the spindle.

She opens her hand to the poor, and reaches out her hands to the needy.

She is not afraid of snow for her household, for all her household are clothed in scarlet.

She makes herself coverings; her clothing is fine linen and purple.

Her husband is known in the gates, when he sits among the elders of the land.

She makes linen garments and sells them; she delivers girdles to the merchant.

Strength and dignity are her clothing, and she laughs at the time to come.

She opens her mouth with wisdom, and the teaching of kindness is on her tongue.

She looks well to the ways of her household, and does not eat the bread of idleness.

Her children rise up and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praises her : 'Many women have done excellently, but you surpass them all.'

Charm is deceitful, and beauty is vain, but a woman who fears the LORD is to be praised.

Give her of the fruit of her hands, and let her works praise her in the gates.

And the words of Mary, Jesus' mother, was recorded down too,

Mary : "My soul magnifies the LORD, and my spirit rejoices in GOD my Saviour, for he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden. For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed; for he who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is his name.

And his mercy is on those who fear him from generation to generation.

He has shown strength with his arm, he has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts, he has put down the mighty from their thrones, and exalted those of low degree; he has filled the hungry with good things, and the rich he has sent empty away.

He has helped his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy, as he spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to his posterity for ever." [Luke 1:46-55]

Taliban's way of treating woman (veil and no education), among other things (e.g. arresting Christian preachers, not because they have done some wrong acts like killing/theft/adultery .... but just because they preached Jesus), I think, is the reason for their defeat under the hands of the Northern Alliance ("Battle belongs to the LORD", victory or defeat comes from LORD).

Bin Laden and his followers should seriously search their hearts, and understand the will of LORD, and not be misled by those "rebelled angels".

Wu Siu Yan


THEFT LAWS (MOSES' VERSION)

LORD : "If a man steals an ox or a sheep, and kills it or sells it, he shall pay five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep. He shall make restitution; if he has nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft. If the stolen beast is found alive in his possession, whether it is an ox or an ass or a sheep, he shall pay double." [Exodus 22:1]

(Note: when a man is sold, he shall serve his owner six years, and his price is calculated according to the service he renders in six years; in the seventh year he shall go out free, for nothing. See [Exodus 21:1-6])

LORD : "If a man delivers to his neighbour money or goods to keep, and it is stolen out of the man's house, then, if the thief is found, he shall pay double." [Exodus 22:7]

Question : since LORD told us NOT to add to His Laws, or take anything away from His Laws, what would you do, if you were the judge, in

  1. A stole B's car for his own use (repaint it, put in a false license plate) ?

  2. A stole B's car, and as soon as he has got the car, he dis-assembled it, and quickly sold all the parts ? then dumped the bare shell into a river ?

  3. A stole from B $10000.

Wu Siu Yan

(P.S.

My answer to the above car theft :

  1. He shall give back the car, moreover, he shall buy another new car and give it to B as a compensation for his sin.

  2. He did it in such an evil way that he has to pay B five times the purchasing price of the car. Most probably, he would not be able to pay the fine to B, and therefore, he will be sold as "contract slave" for six years.

  3. A pays B double, i.e. $20000. Therefore B gets back what he has lost, plus an additional $10000 as compensation.

)


Think critically. True to ourself

We Christians believe that we are designed and created by LORD. All our "hardware" and "software" were designed and given to us by LORD.

Moreover, we believe in "free download from LORD", much like we download freeware from the Internet. We just ask LORD in prayer, and we get the "software" free (e.g. if we wish to be a civil engineer to build bridges, roads, reserviors ... for people. We pray to LORD for such "talents". Then the ability to acquire engineering knowledge will be given to us, but still we have to study books, and do exercises, .... to be a proficient civil engineer.)

Buddha was a prince in India. He encountered many troubles in life and he sat down under a vine tree, and thought over those problems critically. He arrived at many godly precepts (see the book "Freedom From Fear" by Aung San Suu Kyi (a female Burmese political activist), about precepts in Buddism)

Therefore if we are true to ourself, and think critically, and aim for "truth and truth only, what is right and not who is right", we can understand a lot too.

I know of a young man aged 21 in Africa. He believed in Jesus but all his neighbours are Muslims. Therefore he is constantly persecuted (Quran teaches against Christians). He sought for advice in the Internet. My suggestion is that he should not argue with them, but just sing the hymns to them, and endure patiently.

To be true to oneself demands tremendous courage, because many times our life is threatened. Here Jesus provided us a good example. He taught those precepts as "love, Golden Rule, pure as a child, and humble as a child, ... ", but the scribes, elders, Pharisees were all against him. Jesus yielded not, but held fast the commandments of LORD. He was killed, but LORD resurrected him.

Therefore Jesus said,

Jesus : "He who loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; and he who loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; and he who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for my sake will find it." [Mt 10:37-39]

Jesus: "... Whoever does not bear his own cross and come after me, cannot be my disciple. For which of you, desiring to build a tower, does not first sit down and count the cost, whether he has enough to complete it? Otherwise, when he has laid a foundation, and is not able to finish, all who see it begin to mock him, saying, 'This man began to build, and was not able to finish.' Or what king, going to encounter another king in war, will not sit down first and take counsel whether he is able with ten thousand to meet him who comes against him with twenty thousand? And if not, while the other is yet a great way off, he sends an embassy and asks terms of peace. So therefore, whoever of you does not renounce all that he has cannot be my disciple." [Luke 14:28-33]

Wu Siu Yan


The King with no clothes

There was a story : A king wore no clothes and went out to meet his officers. All said that the king's clothes were beautiful. Only a small boy cried out, "he wears no clothes !"

Jesus : "Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Whoever humbles himself like this child, he is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven." [Mt 18:3-4]

Wu Siu Yan


Deer ? Horse ?

There was once a king in China. One day, he brought in a deer. He said, "This is a horse". Then he asked his officers, "What is it?". All his officers answered him, "This is a horse". (The king was trying to see who dare to oppose him.)

Jesus was the plummet line, a model man, that everyone who wish to enter paradise should model after. Jesus faced constant threat of life, yet he held fast LORD's commandments even onto death on a cross.

LORD : "It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give water without price from the fountain of the water of life. He who conquers shall have this heritage, and I will be his GOD and he shall be my son. But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, as for murderers, fornicators, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, there lot shall be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." [Revelation 21:1-8]

Wu Siu Yan


Secret Alliance (or Secret Combination)

Secret Alliance usually originates from one person (or a group of persons) who lusts for power. Members who join Secret Alliance must swear an Oath of Silence, they must not betray the secrets to outsiders, or else they lose their lifes. They are highly organized and they protect one another right or wrong, not only minor crimes, but up to murders.

They share power, wealth together. It is the "They-Us precept" and not LORD's "One Law for All" precept.

They would resort to murder to achieve their purposes. Mr. Lee Kuan-Yew of Singapore talked about the Communist Party in Singapore in the 60's : "If you oppose them, they will fix you. When they fix you, they shoot you!". Please read [Book of Daniel, Old Testament, Chapter 7] for LORD's revelation on this. If you have the time, [Book of Mormon] is a worthwhile book, it described the Secret Alliance among the Maya people and how it caused the total destruction of the Maya people.

SECRET ALLIANCE (=SECRET COMBINATION) IS THE MOST ABOMINABLE SIN IN THE SIGHT OF LORD, BECAUSE IT THROWS AWAY LAW OF GOD COMPLETELY. LORD WILL DESTROY ALL THOSE IN THE SECRET COMBINATION WHEN THEIR INIQUITIES ARE RIPE.

Wu Siu Yan

(P.S. I am not a Mormon, nor a member of the Church of Latter Day Saints. But I have read the Book of Mormon 4 times, and have seen many films by "National Geographic" and "BBC", and other documentaries about Maya ruins, and have visited Maya websites, that I am convinced that it is a true history of the Maya people for the period 600 B.C. to 420 A.D. The description in the book correlates extremely well with relics found nowadays.

WARNING : If you join the Mormon Church, you must assume full responsibility for yourself, I am free from your blood.)


Book of Mormon download

http://www.promo.net/pg

Maya relics (photos on the Internet, just one site, there are many other similar sites.)

http://members.tripod.com/~PHILKON/mayaa.html

Maya Map

http://www.kstrom.net/isk/maya/mayamap.html

Repentance

http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/repent2.htm

King James' Bible

http://www.cforc.com/kjv/index.html

LORD, Jesus and the Spirit of Truth

LORD created a duplicate of Himself, and sent him to Earth. That man was Jesus.

Because LORD will not die, and needs no son to perpetuate descendants, (we human need sons/daughters, not LORD), therefore Christians call this the "condecension of GOD" and call Jesus the "only son of LORD". (Note : Jesus was created before LORD created Earth.)

Jesus performed many miracles - cured many sick persons, walked on water, resurrected dead persons, created food out of nothing for 5000 people (see Books by Matthew, by Luke, by John, in New Testament). Who else can do these miracles other than LORD Himself. Moreover, Jesus was dead for only 3 days. He was resurrected and was seen alive after that (see Book of Acts of Apostles). Jesus is now in heaven, seated at the right side of LORD.

Spirit of Truth may be compared to

  1. Spirit of St. Louis

    Spirit of those people who supported Lindbergh financially in his cross-atlantic flight.

  2. Spirit of Miami

    Spirit of the people in Miami, Florida, who sink obsolete ships/aeroplanes as homes for the fish.

  3. ....

Therefore the spirit in every Christian, in fact, in every human, should be the Spirit of Truth (Truth and truth only. What is right and not who is right. Absolutely honest and upright. No oath, tell the truth at all times.) This is the Spirit in LORD's mind as well as in Jesus' mind, and should be in the mind of every human created by LORD.

Quran taught all Muslims that "GOD, Jesus, Spirit of Truth" are false, on the reason that there cannot be three Almighties at the same time, and accused Christians of contradicting monotheism. And all Muslims believe that, they never check out the Bible (many of them have not even read the Quran from cover to cover, let alone the Bible)! and they persecuted the Christians based on this false idea !

Even if there is great contradictions in Moses' description about "Joseph and his master's wife", "Noah's flood", "Moses dealing with Pharaoh", "LORD's Laws on theft, on adultery, on inheritance" .... Muslims would not believe Moses, who was born thousands of years before Jesus and who dealt with Pharaoh personally, but believe Mohammed who was born some 600 years after Jesus.

This may be compared to the Mormons. "Doctrine and Covenants" was a book written by Joseph Smith, claiming to be revelations from LORD to Joseph Smith, and establishing Joseph Smith as a prophet. Mormons in Utah dare not question that, for fear of the surrounding Mormons.

I think, if a Muslim should read the Quran from cover to cover, and also read the Bible from cover to cover (I think everyone in this Christian-Muslim talk group should), he/she would discover the falsity in Quran. But even so, they dare not say so, for fear of their Muslims neighbours.

What is more valuable to them : Truth or their own life/comfort ?

Once you have chosen falsehood instead of truth (for whatever reasons), and hold to those false things stubbornly, and will not repent, you will have no place with LORD in the hereafter, for LORD = TRUTH. Only persons who model their lifes after Jesus : do what is right in the sight of LORD, even at the peril of death, sin not against TRUTH, would live eternally in the hereafter.

Wu Siu Yan

(P.S. If you are a Muslim, and are convinced that the teachings of Jesus is true, and wish to be converted to a Christian, I still would not advise you argue with your neighbors. Just sing the hymns to them, or email my "http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/islampost.htm" to them. All material in my Homepage, as well as all the things I write, are COPYRIGHT FREE. My personal opinion is that Muslims are Christians, misled by Mohommed, much like that of the Mormons, misled by Joseph Smith. Quran may be compared to the book "Doctrine and Covenants" of Mormons. Mormons have 4 pillar books : Book of Mormon, "Doctrines and Covenants", "Book of Moses", "Book of Abraham", they also read the Bible too.)


[*] The reasons why I think "Doctrine and Covenants" of LDS is false
[*] The reasons why I think the "Book of Abraham" of LDS is false



Who dare Support A Muslim Country 100% based on Quran's Laws

LORD's Laws and Commandemnts given through Moses are very SIMPLE (see

http://balder.prohosting.com/sywu/true.htm )

Not so with Laws in Quran. Its complexity greatly confuses the readers, and makes its implementation like that of Roman's Laws (Minority knows the Laws, not everyone).

Moreover Quran changed the Laws : stealing is punished by cutting their hands off, whereas LORD's Law punishes the thief by requiring him/her repay double (say, A steals from B $10000, then A has to repay B double, i.e. $20000 [Exodus 22:4,7]).

Woman has much rights under LORD's Laws (except that wife should be "helper" to her husband, as LORD created Eve as a "helper" to Adam. [Genesis 2]), there was even one female "judge" in Israel, although most "judges" were male (see [Book of Judges, Chapter 4, Old Testament]. There was no "king" in ancient Israel, they were called "judges").

When all the press in the Western Media use these to attack bin Laden's fundamentalism, who dare to stand on the side of bin Laden ? Because theirs "fundamentalism" is NOT based on LORD' Laws given to Moses in Mount Sinai, but based on Laws given by "we", those angels pretending to be friends of Gabriel, Michael, and LORD, and speaking for "them".

(Note : LORD rules the Universe with His Laws, those who keep His Laws will be blessed, and those who break His Laws will be cursed. LORD administers His Laws with angels, and archangels are over them. Gabriel and Michael are two of the archangels.)

Unless bin Laden and his followers fully return to LORD (and His Laws), and realize that they are Christians misled by Mohammed, (hence they MUST study and learn and do all Jesus' teachings), there will be a future to them. But if they stubbornly refuse LORD's Laws, but uphold Quran's Laws, all the Western World would not support them, let alone LORD.

Wu Siu Yan

19th November, 2001

(P.S.

Moses said 8 persons were saved in Noah's flood - "Noah, his three sons (Shem, Ham, Japheth), and their wives", totalling 8 persons [Genesis chapters 6, 7, 8, 9]". But Quran said otherwise - Noah's sons were not saved. Who will you believe ? Moses or Mohammed ?

)


Bible (King James' translation)

http://www.cforc.com/kjv/index.html

Plainness

There was a Chinese, whenever he has written a poem, he would take it to the ordinary people, and recite it to them, and ask if they understand it or not. All his poems were in plain, easily understood language. He was one of the beloved poetry writers in China.

Also, Confucius aimed for plainness and simplicity in his writing. One Chinese commented on this : "Because he has made his language plain, evil people could not easily twist it to suit their own schemes. This is why the teachings of Confucius endured for generations after generations."

One Christian said, "I glory in plainness; I glory in truth; I glory in my Jesus, for he hath redeemed my soul from hell."

(Me too! I love plainness, I love truth, and I love the teachings of Jesus! and because I believe in Jesus, I was given a new heart when I repented at the age of 16!)

Wu Siu Yan

(P.S. I am not saying that ALL teachings of Confucius are correct. Only teachings of Jesus, who is Allah condescending to earth in human form, is 100% correct. I put the following links for those curious.)


  1. Analect of Confucius

    http://www.isop.ucla.edu/eas/documents/lunyuCh1.htm

  2. 300 Poems from Tang Dynasty, China http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/chinese/frame.htm

  3. Ancient Chinese Poems

    http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/chinese/shijing/AnoShih.html


GLORY IN OUR WISDOM ?

LORD : "Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, let not the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches; but let him who glories glory in this, that he understands and knows me, that I am the LORD who practise kindness, justice, and righteousness in the earth; for in these things I delight, says the LORD." [Jeremiah 9:23-24]

Wu Siu Yan


The feeling that something is wrong indicates troubles

When Dorothy Anne Seese was young, her father put her in a Mormon Church. When she read "Doctrine and Covenants", a book written by Joseph Smith, claiming to be revelation from the Almighty LORD, her spirit was troubled. She thought something was wrong with it. She later left the Church and studied the Bible herself, was convinced and became a Christian.

When I read "Doctrine and Covenants", I have the same feeling of unease as she did.

Because that book claims to be the revelation of LORD, I dared not say that book was false at first, lest I offended the Almighty LORD, who created me and gave me life and who will judge me in the Last Day. For a whole night, my spirit was troubled, I thought over that again and again, and finally, I concluded that that book is false, and I have written a webpage about it (For those curious, the link is)

The reasons why I think "Doctrine and Covenants" of LDS is false
(LDS = Latter Day Saints = Mormon Church)
essayFreasons.htm

I have seen many Muslims on TV, and have formed quite a good impression about them. They have many qualities of good Christians - the image of Peter, James, John, ... (Jesus' 11 disciples [Matthew 10:-4]) may be found in them. I became curious, and borrowed Quran from a library and studied it. After reading about 25% of it, I detected something wrong - it was coming from the mouth of human, not from the Almighty LORD, the Eternal Truth.

I read the whole Quran after September 11 and finally came to the conclusion which I wrote down in

islam.htm

IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO DETECT WHAT IS WRONG WITH QURAN BY JUST READING A FEW VERSES, OR EVEN A CHAPTER. Just as listening to the talk of a person for a few minutes could hardly reveal that person. But if we listen to his talk day after day for sufficiently long period of time, we can know what kind of person he is.

So it is with Quran. One cannot know the "authors" of Quran, i.e. the "we" in Quran, just by reading a few verses or even a Chapter. Only by reading the whole Quran, from the first page to the last page, all 114 Sura's, could we have a deeper understanding of "we" who dictated the Quran.

Therefore I urge all Muslims in this talk-group to read over the Quran from cover to cover, not missing out even 1 line, and understand who "we" really are.

(My version of Quran was downloaded from

http://www.jannah.com/download/articles/quran.html
)

Also I hope the Muslims would read the Bible from cover to cover,

King James' Bible
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/index.html

so that they understand more thoroughly the Spirit that inspired all those authors (Quran has one author, Mohammed, but Bible has many many authors, spreaded over a long period of time, but the spirit that inspired all those authors is LORD's spirit ( = Allah's spirit = Spirit of TRUTH), and then form a more balanced judgement.

Quran accused Christians of being in the wrong because Christians believed in 3 Almighties (Note : No, we don't, we believe LORD created a duplicate of Himself and sent him down to earth, and as Allah needs no son to perpetuate, we called this "Condescension of LORD" - Allah appeared in human form, and called Jesus the only son of LORD because Jesus carried with him 100% likeness of LORD. And we believe we should have one spirit only in our mind - the spirit of TRUTH - absolute honesty and uprightness at all times, no oaths and no lies and speak out of our heart. This is not the same as believing in 3 Almighties! You will know better after reading the whole Bible.) This accusation forms the ground of many persecutions of Christians by Muslims, whereas LORD's Laws punishes only the Law breakers, and the above three beliefs do not break LORD's Laws in any way. Whereas persecution of Christians by Muslims based on that false accusation breaks LORD's Laws, and will bring curse, tremendous curse, on Muslims who do this.

Wu Siu Yan
20th November, 2001.


Books by Jesus' disciples (Matthew, Luke, John)

http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Matthew/index.html
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Luke/index.html
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/John/index.html

Repentance and Baptism

repent2.htm
baptize.htm

"Doctrine and Covenants" of LDS, a book by Joseph Smith

http://scriptures.lds.org/dc/contents

The reasons why I think "Doctrine and Covenants" of LDS is false

essayFreasons.htm

Cleanliness, Clean food, etc (Moses' Version)

Muslim's frequent washing of hands and feet is a good habit. Their abstinence of pork is also a good habit. But LORD taught us MUCH MORE,

  1. (Note : [Lev 5:2] teaches us not to touch carcass of unclean beast, or carcass of unclean cattle, or carcass of unclean swarming things. In times past, people must avoid touching such, if they touch such, they will be fined a pigeon (or turtle dove), or a sheep, as guilt/sin offering).

  2. LORD : "Flesh that touches any unclean things shall not be eaten; it shall be burned with fire." [Lev 7:19]

  3. LORD : "It shall be a perpetual statute throughout your generations, in all your dwelling places, that you eat neither fat nor blood." [Lev 3:17]

  4. LORD : "You shall not eat the blood of any creature, for the life of every creature is its blood; whoever eats it shall be cut off." [Lev 17:14]
    (Note : In some pacific islands, people kill ox by strangling. In this way, blood remains with the flesh. When you travel to such places, you should avoid eating such.)

  5. LORD : "And every person that eats what dies of itself or what is torn by beasts, whether he is a native or a sojourner, shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the evening, then he shall be clean." [Lev 17:15]

  6. LORD : "Say to the people of Israel, These are the living things which you may eat among all the beasts that are on the earth.

    Whatever parts the hoof and is cloven-footed and chew the cud, among the animals, you may eat. Nevertheless among those that chew the cud or part the hoof, you shall not eat these: The camel, because it chews the cud but does not part the hoof, is unclean to you. And the rock badger, because it chews the cud but does not part the hoof, is unclean to you. And the hare, because it chews the cud but does not part the hoof, is unclean to you. And the swine, because it parts the hoof and is cloven-footed but does not chew the cud, is unclean to you. Of their flesh you shall not eat, and their carcasses you shall not touch; they are unclean to you.

    These you may eat, of all that are in the waters. Everything in the waters that has fins and scales, whether in the seas or in the rivers, you may eat. But anything in the seas or the rivers that has not fins and scales, of the swarming creatures in the waters and of the living creatures that are in the waters, is an abomination to you. They shall remain an abomination to you; of their flesh you shall not eat, and their carcass you shall have in abomination. Everything in the waters that has not fins and scales is an abomination to you.

    And these you shall have in abomination among the birds, they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination : the eagle, the ossifrage, the osprey, the kite, the falcon according to its kind, every raven according to its kind, the ostrich, the nighthawk, the sea gull, the hawk according to its kind, the owl, the cormorant, the ibis, the water hen, the pelican, the vulture, the stork, the heron according to its kind, the hoopoe, and the bat.

    All winged insects that go upon all fours are an abomination to you. Yet among the winged insects that go on all fours you may eat those which have legs above their feet, with which to leap on the earth. Of them you may eat: the locust according to its kind, the bald locust according to its kind, the cricket according to its kind, and the grasshopper according to its kind. But all other winged insects which have four feet are an abomination to you.

    And by these you shall become unclean; whoever touches their carcass shall be unclean until the evening, and whoever carries any part of their carcass shall wash his clothes and be unclean until the evening. Every animal which parts the hoof but is not cloven-footed or does not chew the cud is unclean to you; every one who touches them shall be unclean. And all that go on their paws, among the animals that go on all fours, are unclean to you ; whoever touches their carcass shall be unclean until the evening, and he who carries their carcass shall wash his clothes and be unclean until the evening; they are unclean to you.

    And these are unclean to you among the swarming things that swarm upon the earth : the weasel, the mouse, the great lizard according to its kind, the gecko, the land crocodile, the lizard, the sand lizard, and the chameleon. These are unclean to you among all that swarm; whoever touches them when they are dead shall be unclean until the evening. And anything upon which any of them falls when they are dead shall be unclean, whether it is an article of wood or a garment or a skin or a sack, any vessel that is used for any purpose; it must be put into water, and it shall be unclean until the evening; then it shall be clean. And if any of them falls into any earthen vessel, all that is in it shall be unclean, and you shall break it. Any food in it which may be eaten, upon which water may come, shall be unclean; and all drink which may be drunk from every such vessel shall be unclean. And everything upon which any part of their carcass falls shall be unclean; whether oven or stove, it shall be broken in pieces; they are unclean, and shall be unclean to you. Nevertheless a spring or a cistern holding water shall be clean; but whatever touches their carcass shall be unclean. And if any part of their carcass falls upon any seed for sowing that is to be sown, it is clean; but if water is put on the seed and any part of their carcass falls on it, it is unclean to you.

    And if any animal of which you may eat dies, he who touches its carcass shall be unclean until the evening, and he who eats of its carcass shall wash his clothes and be unclean until the evening; he also who carries the carcass shall wash his clothes and be unclean until the evening.

    Every swarming thing that swarms upon the earth is an abomination; it shall not be eaten. Whatever goes on its belly, and whatever goes on all fours, or whatever has many feet, all the swarming things that swarm upon the earth, you shall not eat; for they are an abomination. You shall not make yourselves abominable with any swarming thing that swarms; and you shall not defile yourselves with them; lest you become unclean. For I am the LORD your God; consecrate yourselves therefore, and be holy, for I am holy. You shall not defile yourselves with any swarming thing that crawls upon the earth." [Lev 11]

  7. LORD : "He who touches the dead body of any person shall be unclean seven days; he shall cleanse himself with the water (water of impurity) on the third and on the seventh day, ...." [Num 19:11]

  8. LORD : "This is the law when a man dies in a tent: every one who comes into the tent, and every one who is in the tent, shall be unclean seven days. And every open vessel, which has no cover fastened upon it, is unclean. Whoever in the open field touches one who is slain with a sword, or a dead body, or a bone of a man, or a grave, shall be unclean seven days. For the unclean they shall take some ashes of the burnt sin offering, and running water shall be added in a vessel; then a clean person shall take hyssop, and dip it in the water, and sprinkle it upon the tent, and upon all the furnishings, and upon the persons who were there, and upon him who touched the bone, or the slain, or the dead, or the grave; and the clean person shall sprinkle upon the unclean on the third day and on the seventh day; thus on the seventh day he shall cleanse him, and he shall wash his clothes and bathe himself in water, and at evening he shall be clean." [Num 19]

There are still more rules about cleanliness and hygiene in [Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers]. For those curious, the "links" are supplied below.

Cleanliness is the most important thing to our health, to our environment. A lot of illnesses come from poor cleanliness habits. (e.g. rubbish thrown here and there, creating breeding ground for flies, which spread numerous infectious diseases. Dirty water contaminates drinking water, kills rivers, killing all fish .... )

Once I travelled to another country and became ill (probably I had touched some unclean things unknowingly) and had a temperature, then I quickly took a bath, and my temperature receded.

LORD's rules on cleanliness are very effective and simple. People who neglect them become sick often.

Wu Siu Yan


Five Books of Moses (Torah) "Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers"

http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Genesis/index.html
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Exodus/index.html
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Leviticus/index.html
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Numbers/index.html
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Deuteronomy/index.html

LAW ENFORCEMENT

LORD taught us to rest one day every 7 days (1 week every 6 months, 1 year every 7 years [Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers]),

LORD : "Six days you shall do your work, but on the seventh day you shall rest; that your ox and your ass may have rest, and the son of your bondmaid, and the alien, may be refreshed." [Ex. 23:12]

i.e. the Sabbath and the holidays are made for us, not we made for the Sabbath and the holidays.

Jesus healed many persons on the Sabbath, and the Pharisees wanted to kill him, because the Pharisees enforced strictly about Sabbath.

This may be compared to Taliban's strict enforcement of woman's clothes.


DO NOT CONDEMN THE GUILTLESS

In ancient Israel, the priests would put bread on a table in the temple/tabernacle. The bread would be there for a week, after that, the priests may eat them. LORD told them that those are "holy bread" and should not be for ordinary consumption by ordinary people.

One day, when David was trying to escape from King Saul, because King Saul wanted to kill him, David was hungry and went to a priest, who was a friend of his, and asked for food. The priest had no food other than the "holy bread" and he gave them to him. [1 Samuel 21:1-6]

According to the "letter" of the Law, the priest is guilty of breaking LORD's commandments. But is the priest guilty of profaning holy things "in Spirit and in Truth" ?

Jesus' word to the Pharisees : "Have you not read what David did, when he was hungry, and those who were with him : how he entered the house of GOD and ate the bread of the Presence, which it was not lawful for him to eat nor for those who were with him, but only for the priests? Or have you not read in the law how on the sabbath the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are guiltless? I tell you, something greater than the temple is here. And if you had known what this means, 'I desire mercy, and not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the guiltless." [Matthew 12:3-8]

Evil-eye and fault-finding will make everyone unhappy. Be merciful and do not condemn the guiltless. Put ourself in their shoes.

Wu Siu Yan


Quality Circle in Japan

In Japan, they believe that front-line people are more knowledgeable than the managers, therefore, they encourage them to form "Quality Circles" to discuss and make suggestions to the management. The management often provides them with study materials, tuition subsidies, .... (Managers in Japan are more humble than their Western counterparts.)

Quality circle consists of 7 or 8 persons, and they are kept in small numbers so that everyone has a chance to speak. They would write down the ideas first on a white-board (fish-bone diagram). When the ideas are all written down, they would discuss the ideas one by one (brain-storming). In this way, no one knows who puts forward the idea, and when they discuss, they discuss the matter, NOT the person who puts forward the idea. In this way, they avoid hurting the hearts of their fellow workers.

This talk group is getting a little "hot", I think we should calm down, and discuss truth of matters and not argue over "wordings", and let us be "humble as a child", accept the truth even if it comes from persons not of our liking. Let us "love your neighbor as yourself" (LORD : "You shall not take vengeance or bear any grudge against the sons of your own people, but you shall love your neighbour as yourself." [Lev. 19:18]; Jesus' Golden Rule : "So whatever you wish that men would do to you, do so to them;" [Matthew 7:12]) Let us not be brain-washed persons, but use our brain at all times, think critically, search our hearts deeply, suppress not our conscience, and accept nothing but TRUTH.

Wu Siu Yan

(P.S.

Jesus : "You have heard that it was said 'You shall love your neighbour and hate your enemy.' But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you salute only your brethren, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? You, therefore, must be perfect , as your heavenly Father is perfect." [Matthew 5:43-48]

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Name of LORD

"Name" stands for qualities. "Name of LORD" stands for the following qualities and these are what we should puruse after,

  1. Merciful - kind to one another, merciful to one another, put ourself in other's shoes. Compassionate. LORD : ".. pour yourself out for the hungry .. " [Isaiah 58:10]

  2. Gracious - open our hand to the poor, to the needy.

  3. Slow to anger - we should learn from LORD, who endures tremendous insults day after day, and also learn from Jesus, who was so humble and meek.

  4. Abounding in steadfast love - love one another in brotherly love. Aim for the long term good of the other person. Hence parents discipline their children with cane, after repeated admonition and yet not given heed, is also "love". To let our children run loose, or see our friends going into wrong track and yet "reason with/talk to/warn" him not, is not love.

  5. Abounding in Faithfulness - should do what proceeds out of our mouth. Always speak the truth and no lies. Faithful to friends, employer, other partner in marriage, ....

  6. Forgiving - Many people suffer hardships/problems at home, at the work place, ... and could not control themselves and would vent on us. Or they receive less education as we do and hence would see things different from us, therefore we should have a sympathetic and understanding heart, and forgive others' trespasses. Jesus : "if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father also will forgive you; but if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses." [Matthew 6:14]

  7. Jealous against iniquity, against evil - This is a very important attitude. If we do not have "hate evil" attitude, we would tolerate many "evil acts", (or blind to the sufferings of victims of evil), and gradually, we would learn to do those acts, making ourselves farther and farther away from LORD.
    (Note : "hate evil" is NOT the same as "hate evil persons". Remember Jesus : "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you." [Matthew 5:44])

Wu Siu Yan
22nd November, 2001


Name of Jesus

"Name" stands for qualities, and the qualities of Jesus are

[*] Sermon on the Mount

jesus.htm

[*] Mercy

ModelJesus1.htm

[*] Pure in Heart. Unless you turn and become like Children ...

ModelJesus2.htm

[*] Meek, Gentle, Lowly and Humble

ModelJesus3.htm

[*] Honesty and Uprightness. Let What you say be simply Yes or No

ModelJesus4.htm

[*] Forgiving

ModelJesus5.htm

[*] Serve GOD, not money. Save money in heaven

ModelJesus6.htm

[*] Wash the feet of other people

ModelJesus7.htm

[*] Poor in Spirit. Seek Righteousness/knowledge. Pray constantly. Cleave to LORD and Jesus

ModelJesus8.htm

[*] Fear the LORD. Keep the Laws and Commandments of LORD. Do not be anxious

ModelJesus9.htm

[*] Love your enemy. Love one another

ModelJesus10.htm

[*] Bear the Cross to follow Jesus Everyday. Patient Endurance, Endure to the end. Hold fast LORD and Jesus' teachings onto death

ModelJesus11.htm

[*] Service. Make the most of the "talents" we have

ModelJesus12.htm

[*] If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and throw it away. Resist Adultery and Food sacrificed to idols

ModelJesus13.htm

[*] Beware of False Prophets, Dreams, Miracles, Might, ...

ModelJesus14.htm

[*] Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees, etc.

ModelJesus15.htm

[*] Miscellaneous Topics (1)

ModelJesus16.htm

[*] Miscellaneous Topics (2)

ModelJesus17.htm

These are the more important teachings of Jesus, others may be found in the books by Matthew, Luke, John.

Wu Siu Yan


BAPTISM AND "HOLY TRINITY" ?

"Holy trinity" is never mentioned in the Bible, it is mentioned in Quran.

When a person is baptized, he is baptized

  1. in the name of LORD

    essaygoal2.htm

  2. in the name of His only son, Jesus

    jesus.htm
    ModelJesus1.htm

  3. in the Spirit of Truth (i.e. the spirit in one's mind, after he has been baptized, should be the Spirit of Truth, (compare: Spirit of St. Louis - spirit of those people who supported Lindbergh in his cross-atlantic flight; Spirit of Miami - spirit of the Miami people who sink obsolete ships/aeroplanes as homes for the fish, .... ) and he should speak the truth at all times, no lies, no oath but Honesty and uprightness throughout the rest of his/her life.)



These are the 3 most important things in a Christian's life.

Christian should model their life after LORD, after Jesus, and should only have the Spirit of Truth in their heart. Any evil spirit or any sinful spirit should not be allowed in our heart. (Please read the above links to understand what I mean)

Again, I say, "holy trinity" is NOT mentioned in the Bible, but mentioned in Quran as accusing Christians of being in error because LORD is one (monotheism).

Wu Siu Yan


CONVERSION DIFFICULTIES

I know of a young man in Africa, he converted from Islam to Christianity. But all his neighbours are Muslims, and they regarded him as worshipping "three gods" and persecute him constantly.

Many people know that Japan is predominantly a Buddhist country. As "loving kindness" is the main precept of Buddhism, and "righteousness" is also a cherished precept in Japan, Japanese would regard people converted to Christianity as someone who would take in devilish precepts !

I know of a Japanese girl. She became a Christian before the 2nd World War, and as she was the only Christian in her village, her neighbour treated her harshly. Her father and mother were affected too, so they married her quickly to a man. Her husband was a buddhist and therefore treated her unkindly too. But as he saw her not as devilish as he thought, he became curious and read the Bible and some Christian literature himself. He became a Christian too. They two went preaching together. But as Japan was engaged in the China-Japan war, and ruled by warlords, they were put in prison, and imprisoned separately. They suffered many hardships in prison, but they both survived the war. They resumed preaching after the War, but as her husband's health was ruined in prison, he died shortly after that. But she persisted in her preaching work.

Why was she able to stand firm on the side of LORD even when the whole country was against Christianity, and even when many of her Christian friends had changed side under pressure ? It was because her love of LORD and her love of the teachings of Jesus. She was very "pure", there was no "evil thoughts" in her mind, and she was honest and caring. (People should know that Japanese are highly disciplined, and they are very punctual and have keen sense of responsibility) Coupled with her training in discipline when young, she was able to stand firm throughout all her life. She trusted LORD throughout her whole life, and trusted that LORD would save her and care for her, therefore she cleaved to LORD and clinged to Him firmly, and never departed from Him. She also looked forward to a New Heaven and New Earth, where all child-like good people will be there, and will enjoy a world where lion/tiger will not kill, snake will not bite, and where there will be no famine nor natural disasters, but peace and happiness for eternity.

When faced with persecution, the advise of Peter, Jesus' disciple, is very valuable,

Peter : "Servants, be submissive to your masters with all respect, not only to the kind and gentle but also to the overbearing. For one is approved if, mindful of GOD, he endures pain while suffering unjustly. For what credit is it, if when you do wrong and are beaten for it you take it patiently? But if when you do right and suffer for it you take it patiently, you have GOD's approval. For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps. He committed no sin; no guile was found on his lips. When he was reviled, he did not revile in return; when he suffered, he did not threaten; but he trusted to him who judges justly. He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. By his wounds you have been healed. For you were straying like sheep, but have now returned to the Shepherd and Guardian of your souls." [1 Peter 2:18-25]

When Jesus preached, the scribes/elders/priests/Pharisees were all against him (they all cherished those cleaning rules, rituals, ... and looked down upon Jesus' teachings of kindness and mercy and love and child-like), and they all persecuted him and even nailed him to the cross. Brother Peter taught us to look towards Jesus as an example of patient endurance.

Wu Siu Yan

(P.S. That Africa young man said : "... I have become a wanted person in our locality because of my conversion to Christianity. I have been haunted everywhere I go. I am appealing to fellow Christians brothers and sisters to advice me as am getting disturbed ... "

I suggested to him that he endures patiently, do not argue with his neighbours who persecute him, but if possible, sing hymns to them.)


TAKE VENGEANCE WITH OUR OWN HAND ?

LORD rules the Universe with His Laws, and enforce Laws with angels. LORD is 100% just in administering His Laws. If injustices cannot be fulfilled in this life, it will be fulfilled after life (in paradise for compensation, in hell for punishment.)






The principle is : if someone breaks the Laws and hurts you, you must NOT take vengeance with your own hand, or else you break the Laws too.

There is recorded in the Bible one incident : When David escaped from King Saul, David and his men were in the wilderness, and Nabal's shepherds were there. David and his men protected those shepherds day after day. One day, Nabal was shearing his sheep, and he prepared a lot of food for those who helped him shear the sheep. David sent messengers to beg Nabal for some food. Nabal did not give them any food, but instead, humiliated them. David and his men were furious and David intended to kill all Nabal's men. David was stopped at the last moment, because Nabal's wife heard of this, and went and met David and persudaded him not to take vengeance with his own hand. And David listened to her. A few days later, LORD killed Nabal with a heart-disease. [1 Samuel 25]

The followings are Quran and Bible's teachings on unjust treatment by others :

(A) Quran, [Sura 42:39-43]

  1. When gross injustice befalls them,
    they stand up for their rights.

  2. Although the just requital for an
    injustice is an equivalent retribution,
    those who pardon and maintain
    righteousness are rewarded by GOD.
    He does not love the unjust.

  3. Certainly, those who stand up for
    their rights, when injustice befalls them,
    are not committing any error.

  4. The wrong ones are those who treat the people unjustly,
    and resort to aggression without provocation.
    These have incurred a painful retribution.

  5. Resorting to patience and forgiveness
    reflects a true strength of character.



(B) Bible

LORD : You shall not hate your brother in your heart, but you shall reason with your neighbour, lest you bear sin because of him. [Leviticus. 19:17]

LORD : You shall not take vengeance or bear any grudge against the sons of your own people, but you shall love your neighbour as yourself. [Leviticus. 19:18]

Jesus : You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' But I say to you, Do not resist one who is evil. But if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also; and if any one would sue you and take your coat, let him have your cloak as well; and if any one forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to him who begs from you, and do not refuse him who would borrow from you. You have heard that it was said 'You shall love your neighbour and hate your enemy.' But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you salute only your brethren, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? You, therefore, must be perfect , as your heavenly Father is perfect. [Matthew 5:38-48]

Jesus : For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father also will forgive you; but if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. [Matthew 6:14-15]

TWO ATTITUDES

Therefore when Christians meet injustices, they would try reasoning first. Most people are reasonable people and such reasoning would usually work. But some are bent on oppression, and reasoning would fail, Christians would accept humiliation/wrongs, because Jesus taught us, "love your enemy; strike your left cheek, give him the right cheek" and trust in LORD who is GOD of Justice.

If a person does not trust in LORD (LORD's ability to administer justice with angels is great, 100% justice!) and bends on taking vengeance on his enemy. He will break more and more of LORD's Laws, and incur curse upon himself. Should he have accepted the wrongs and endured patiently, he would have been blessed instead.

Jesus: "Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when men revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so men persecuted the prophets who were before you." [Matthew 5:10-11]

Wu Siu Yan
23rd November, 2001


SALVATION IS GIFT, NOT BECAUSE OF WORKS

We believe that all our "hardware" and "software" are designed and created by LORD.

Our "hardware" is not as strong as an ox, but our "software" is much better than that of it, for an ox cannot do Maths/science/engineering ....

We cannot be saved if our "software" is the "software inherited from Adam". Adam listened to Eve and did not believe LORD - thinking that LORD lied to them to prevent them from becoming "wise". (Worldly wisdom, everything based on "good to us, or evil to us, OR interests" and not "right in the sight of LORD, or wrong in the sight of LORD", leads to death), and therefore cut themselves off from LORD. [Genesis 2,3]

We inherited this "Adam's software" and we will die too. How can we throw away this "virus software" and have a new "software" so that we will live ?

Works alone (i.e. fasting, rinse our hands and feet with water for cleansing, alms to the poor, .... ) cannot get us a new "software". If we think we can enter paradise because of such "piety rituals" and spend all our days on observing such rituals, we will only weary ourselves and yet arrive at nothing. Our mind is still not enlightened with a new "software".

We can have this new "software" (much like "freeware" from the Internet) only when we believe that Jesus is Allah condescending onto Earth, and Jesus' teachings are 100% Allah's teachings, and we walk in those teachings.

Then LORD will give us this new, godly "software" free. Moreover, we may download whatever "software" from LORD just by praying,

Jesus : "Ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. Or what man of you, if his son asks him for a loaf, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him? So whatever you wish that men would do to you, do so to them; for this is the law and the prophets." [Matthew 7:7-12]

This "software of Jesus" will gradually replace the "software of Adam". But this is only a seed, and we will have to water it, work for it, wait for it, for the seed to be fully grown into a matured tree.

This may be compared to : a friend gives you Microsoft's "Word/Excel", and you have it installed on your computer. That doesn't mean you are proficient in using "Word/Excel". You have to use it, practice on it, and you have to study manual/books. Gradually, over months or years, you become expert with them.

Therefore if one truly believes Jesus and LORD, one would usually be baptized, which is like a "marriage ceremony", to mean that we repent of our past wrongs, and ask for forgiveness, and pledge to do only that is "lawful and right" from that moments onwards, and work towards "the name of LORD", "the name of Jesus", (i.e. qualities of LORD/of Jesus -- merciful, gracious, slow to anger, abounding in steading love and faithfulness, forgiving, jealous against iniquity, meek, gentle and lowly, pure as a child, humble as a child, .....) and allow no spirits other than the Spirit of TRUTH to be in our heart.

In short, we must learn and do the teachings of LORD and of Jesus. We will have to walk in them, and practice them. Then over the years, we gradually acquire proficiency in those qualities, a seed-to-tree process.

In the Last Day, everyone of us will be judged. And only those who have acquired the qualities of Jesus will enter New Heaven and New Earth (the teachings of Jesus will be our judge in the Last Day, e.g. the Golden Rule [Matthew 7:12], acts of mercy [Matthew 25], ... etc. Jesus being the plummet line that everyone who aspires to live in the hereafter must be measured up to).

The Pharisees thought that those "rituals" in Moses' Books would enable them to enter the hereafter, and they prided themselves on those "rituals". Because of their pride and their own idea of salvation, they looked down upon Jesus and persecuted him.

Similarly, if the Muslims pride themselves on their "rituals" and the "modified" justice and righteousness in Quran (Quran changed Moses' Laws nearly on all counts, but still retains some sense of justice and righteousness), Muslims' life will be no better than the Pharisees (the Pharisees have the FULL Moses' Laws and FULL rituals). Only when they return fully to 100% LORD's teachings and 100% Jesus' teachings, and acknowledge that they are Christians misled by Mohammed (who was in a postion to know that Quran contradicted Moses nearly on all counts, in the 600's, when printing had not yet been invented?), would they have a future.

Wu Siu Yan


Moses' "Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy"

http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Genesis/index.html
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Exodus/index.html
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Leviticus/index.html
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Numbers/index.html
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Deuteronomy/index.html